Coppinger Reveals More Info on Whyte's Dirty Test!

[Ray*]

the article says that vada hasn't reveal the results yet and is hearn who claims that whyte passed vada testing or i got that wrong? 'cause most of whyte defenders are basing his innocence in that, that he passed vada testing

I don’t think have heard anyone even mentioned VADA. Hearn has claimed VADA also tested Whyte but I don’t think he mentioned anything in regards to him passing those tests, he has been very careful with his words.

[Dean_Razorback]

I don’t think have heard anyone even mentioned VADA. Hearn has claimed VADA also tested Whyte but I don’t think he mentioned anything in regards to him passing those tests, he has been very careful with his words.

well, according to robbie whyte passed them lol

[KTFOKING]

No retest whatever VADA has with them. This is what other testing agencies do. They go back and re-test previous samples to see if they can find anything that they have missed out previously.

Testing organizations usually test when new PEDs are discovered and they then test the frozen samples to see if that athlete would have tested positive for that. I could be wrong though.

[deathofaclown]

i dont think you can say robbie barrett is a) a fan or b) sane. he is literally ret@rded.

As for Miller he has neither the team or the promotional clout to even attempt to cover for him in comparison to whyte/AJ.
Hearn will try and cover this up best he can, guy is snakeoil salesman & an utter utter c^nt to put it lightly.

Canelo and AJ will get away with juicing, but whyte is not on the level of those guys so he MIGHT get whats coming to him, heres hoping...

Whyte ain’t on their level but let’s not forget he’s a PPV fighter in the UK and is Eddies only constant PPV fighter outside of AJ. AJ might be as good as done if he loses the rematch

Whyte on the other hand is set of face maybr Wilder or Fury next year.

He’s very valuable to Hearn and Sky right now and will be even more so if AJ loses.

[sunny31]

WTF are you talking about "sooner and in larger traces"? You clearly don't understand what I'm saying, nor did you understand what I was talking about in regard to fan reactions to the situations. You're another one of these apologists. Thankfully, the vast majority of boxing fans aren't this ******. We just get a few clowns here that make it look as is all British fans are folks. Most aren't though.

I clearly understand what you're saying, you dont seem to...read it back. It looks like The UKAD testing didn't pick it up until well into camp so if he was using the drug for the purpose you say, he would be coming off a cycle and would have popped early.

I'm not an apologist, I dont care for these arguments until all the facts are known, it was the same for all these situations, ie Miller, Canelo

You are the one who tried to generalise that British fans here are biased and it's not far fetched to think the Boxing Board are corrupt as a result, prob takes the cake of dumb posts in this thread.

[thesmokingman]

Testing organizations usually test when new PEDs are discovered and they then test the frozen samples to see if that athlete would have tested positive for that. I could be wrong though.

Nah. The keep frozen samples until their test methodology improves. As is the case as with the EPO urine test that was developed.

A negative example is the 1999 Lance Armstrong samples. The way the coding on the labels, no one is supposed to know what samples go where w/o the "key" from the sanctioning body. Anyways a decade later they developed EPO urine test. Pound illegally had LLND unfreeze Armstrong's samples and had them tested under the new test protocol.

Wham, bam, thank you Ma'am. Armstrong came up positive. But how'd they know it was him? Thanks Di ck Pound, Chief of WADA. The only problem was that it was past the statute of limitations, thus everything was thrown out, never mind the legality of a Lab operating rogue with info that they're not supposed to know. Go WADA!

[KTFOKING]

Nah. The keep frozen samples until their test methodology improves. As is the case as with the EPO urine test that was developed.

A negative example is the 1999 Lance Armstrong samples. The way the coding on the labels, no one is supposed to know what samples go where w/o the "key" from the sanctioning body. Anyways a decade later they developed EPO urine test. Pound illegally had LLND unfreeze Armstrong's samples and had them tested under the new test protocol.

Wham, bam, thank you Ma'am. Armstrong came up positive. But how'd they know it was him? Thanks Di ck Pound, Chief of WADA. The only problem was that it was past the statute of limitations, thus everything was thrown out, never mind the legality of a Lab operating rogue with info that they're not supposed to know. Go WADA!

That's basically what I mean. They so it when their methods improve or they can detect newer PEDs. But they don't go back and test their samples again in the case Ray was referring to. Like why would they re-test their samples they have already taken from Whyte?

[thesmokingman]

That's basically what I mean. They so it when their methods improve or they can detect newer PEDs. But they don't go back and test their samples again in the case Ray was referring to. Like why would they re-test their samples they have already taken from Whyte?

That's exactly what they do. It's called retroactive testing. And athletes tend to fkn hate it for obvious reasons. And also what one gets popped for is not always what they were ingesting/injecting/etc. The quality of roids today is not what it was since China has become the number one supplier. A lot of times guys and gals will pop dirty because the dope they bought from China was not pure. Russia used to be a main supplier, supplying PURE test and EPO to the world market. But they've been replaced by China.

Grigory Rodchenkov goes into popping dirty like this in Icarus movie. It's kinda of secret war. China pumps out dirty PEDs so other countries athletes get popped and they reap the rewards. It's a fkn PEDs Cold War out there.


Anyways, that's exactly what they do as in 1999.

During the 1998 Tour, there was no test for EPO. But samples stored from the race were retroactively tested in 2004. And in August of 2005, it was announced that there were 40 positives from the race. The French Senate has ordered that the riders be identified, but the body delayed the decree until after the conclusion of this year's Tour.

The CPA claims that since only a small proportion of riders were tested, the named athletes would be condemned while others who escaped testing would be untainted by the findings.

The agency went further to say that the publication of names "would have undeniable and irreversible impact on the reputation of the riders complained of, and on their current and future work. And while the against-analysis seem excluded. The publication of a list would be tantamount to an accusation of doping without any possibility of defense!”

https://www.outsideonline.com/1798381/tour-riders-balk-retroactive-testing

[KTFOKING]

That's exactly what they do. It's called retroactive testing. And athletes tend to fkn hate it for obvious reasons. And also what one gets popped for is not always what they were ingesting/injecting/etc. The quality of roids today is not what it was since China has become the number one supplier. A lot of times guys and gals will pop dirty because the dope they bought from China was not pure. Russia used to be a main supplier, supplying PURE test and EPO to the world market. But they've been replaced by China.

Grigory Rodchenkov goes into popping dirty like this in Icarus movie. It's kinda of secret war. China pumps out dirty PEDs so other countries athletes get popped and they reap the rewards. It's a fkn PEDs Cold War out there.


Anyways, that's exactly what they do as in 1999.

During the 1998 Tour, there was no test for EPO. But samples stored from the race were retroactively tested in 2004. And in August of 2005, it was announced that there were 40 positives from the race. The French Senate has ordered that the riders be identified, but the body delayed the decree until after the conclusion of this year's Tour.

The CPA claims that since only a small proportion of riders were tested, the named athletes would be condemned while others who escaped testing would be untainted by the findings.

The agency went further to say that the publication of names "would have undeniable and irreversible impact on the reputation of the riders complained of, and on their current and future work. And while the against-analysis seem excluded. The publication of a list would be tantamount to an accusation of doping without any possibility of defense!”

https://www.outsideonline.com/179838...active-testing

The thing is, you are assuming VADA doesn't detect what Whyte tested positive for. I'm guessing they do. It just could be a case of UKAD testing Whyte on say June 30, while VADA didn't test until July 4th, and by then the drug was out of Whyte's system. There would be no need for VADA to retroactively test their samples unless they simply haven't been able to detect dianabol, correct?

[thesmokingman]

The thing is, you are assuming VADA doesn't detect what Whyte tested positive for. I'm guessing they do. It just could be a case of UKAD testing Whyte on say June 30, while VADA didn't test until July 4th, and by then the drug was out of Whyte's system. There would be no need for VADA to retroactively test their samples unless they simply haven't been able to detect dianabol, correct?

Why can't you just say oh thanks for that info? They'll only retoractively test if there's a reason to. Don't give them a reason and samples may never be unfrozen. They did the 99 Tour because of Pound. He hates Armstrong and was doing anything possible to capture him.