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  • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
    �� Haymon is God you know. He has a signed contract, and he has to adhere to whatever terms he signed for. Haymon da god isn’t saving that.
    Again, what's the penalty for not honoring the contract? Is it a million, two million? We don't know. AJ said he wanted to go back to MSG, Hearn's entire operation looks shady AF, so if I'm Ruiz, a MatchRoom show in the UK is not a good look right now! Now if I'm gonna be sued for $5 million, maybe not? But if I just have to drop belts, and lose nothing, I'm not going! It all depends on the penalty for not honoring the contract! If Hearn wants Joshua to have some credibility, he does the rematch at MSG!

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    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      I was replying to somebody who said he'd popped dirty for roids in the past, fuckwit.
      You’re defending steroid cheats... again ?

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      • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        Matchroom had to be informed because they are Whyte's promoter and the lead promoter of the show. Like Hearn just said in an interview, UKAD interviewed Dillian and looked at information from his VADA tests, which had all come up clean. They then decided that he was clean and cleared him to fight, so there would have been no point telling Rivas about it..
        Wrong! They didn't decide that he was clean. Their protocol is that it is not a definitive fail without the "B" sample results. As a matter of principal Rivas and the WBC should have been informed of an "A" sample failure. Add this to the changing of the gloves and the whole fu.king thing is a mess for the powers that be.

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        • Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
          After what’s going on with Whyte it would be dumb for ukad/bbboc fk up the aj/Ruiz fight if takes place in U.K. but I don’t think dazn going what it in U.K. and push for the nyc show, Hearn might have to bend if he still wants to put on cards on dazn they can start to dwindle his shows and opt out next year giving more cards to golden boy
          Well this actually helps Team Ruiz IMHO, like you pointed out they cannot mess up that Ruiz/Joshua rematch if that fight happens in the UK. To be honest with you I couldn’t care less where it takes place. As long as there is a ring, fair refereeing, doctors, judges etc I don’t even care for biased commentary, the most important people are the 3 men in the ring and the 3 judges outside of it.

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          • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            Again, what's the penalty for not honoring the contract? Is it a million, two million? We don't know. AJ said he wanted to go back to MSG, Hearn's entire operation looks shady AF, so if I'm Ruiz, a MatchRoom show in the UK is not a good look right now! Now if I'm gonna be sued for $5 million, maybe not? But if I just have to drop belts, and lose nothing, I'm not going! It all depends on the penalty for not honoring the contract! If Hearn wants Joshua to have some credibility, he does the rematch at MSG!
            I don’t care what the penalty is, because I know he has a signed contract. So knowing he has a signed contract am expecting a fight. Whether the fight is in mars or Mexico is irrelevant. As long as he adheres to the contract that he signed. The rest is really irrelevant to be honest.

            Am not going to speak on a possibility, am speaking on a certainty (Which is Team Ruiz signed a contract that gave Team Joshua the power for a rematch as a thank you for getting a chance at the HW titles within 1 month of coming back into boxing).

            If Team Ruiz wants to dishonour that contract then we all would see the consequences of that. Am sure they would try, people do get greedy you know, I don’t know if it’s an American thing but I remember Team Rahman (With Don King’s backing) trying to pull that too on Team Lewis. Guess what happened there?

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            • Originally posted by Beercules View Post
              I can't believe people are defending this.
              People would defend anything.

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              • Originally posted by Brettcappe View Post
                Wrong! They didn't decide that he was clean. Their protocol is that it is not a definitive fail without the "B" sample results. As a matter of principal Rivas and the WBC should have been informed of an "A" sample failure. Add this to the changing of the gloves and the whole fu.king thing is a mess for the powers that be.
                They had the power to provisionally suspend him right then. They cleared him to fight. So imo, they must have believed he was clean, even if he isn't "officially" clean until the full investigation process has been completed.

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                • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  They had the power to provisionally suspend him right then. They cleared him to fight. So imo, they must have believed he was clean, even if he isn't "officially" clean until the full investigation process has been completed.



                  They had the power to provisionally suspend him right then? UKAD takes the position that, until the adjudication process is over and due process is complete, there has not been a finding that a fighter is in breach of its PED protocols and no sanctions can be put in place by the British Boxing Board of Control.
                  Last edited by Alan Smithee; 07-26-2019, 04:29 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Brettcappe View Post
                    Wrong! They didn't decide that he was clean. Their protocol is that it is not a definitive fail without the "B" sample results. As a matter of principal Rivas and the WBC should have been informed of an "A" sample failure. Add this to the changing of the gloves and the whole fu.king thing is a mess for the powers that be.
                    I agree with that. What I disagree with is people blaming Hearn for them not being informed.

                    I just listened to an interview with Hauser, who broke the news of this, on Boxing Social. He points the finger of blame at the UKAD/BBBoC procedure for not informing Rivas and the WBC, and says it was not Eddie Hearn's roll or responsibility to do that, and that he fully understands why Eddie kept quiet about it.

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                    • Originally posted by Brettcappe View Post
                      They had the power to provisionally suspend him right then? UKAD takes the position that, until the adjudication process is over and due process is complete, there has not been a finding that a fighter is in breach of its PED protocols and no sanctions can be put in place by the British Boxing Board of Control. Provisionally suspend? You just made that up Batman!
                      You are absolutely wrong about that.

                      "Sanctions = punishment for a PED violation after the adjudication process has been completed and the offence has been proved.

                      Provisional suspension while the process is being completed is something else again.

                      If you care so much about this, get off your fat lazy arse and check your facts at the UKAD website, like I did.

                      Dillian Whyte was provisionally suspended after failing a previous UKAD test in 2012.

                      Tyson and Hughie Fury were provisionally suspended after being accused of nandrolone abuse by UKAD, and had to go to a high court judge to get their suspensions lifted.

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