DAZN Forcing Canelo to Commit to GGG Trilogy if he Wants to Fight Derevyanchenko

[killakali]

DAZN isn't in full control though.

It is proven without Canelo, they REALLY struggle. Dude accounts for majority of the subscribers. So what does DAZN do if he sits out a year and they lose their subscribers? Then what? I mean as expected, they are losing a lot of money in the early going....But imagine if they lose at least half their subscriber base? Then what?

canelo doesn’t want to sit out either and not get paid. DAZN is increasing world wide subscribers without Canelo

[killakali]

They lose money when he fights and lose more money when he doesn't fight.

they still be getting more worldwide subscribers plus Canelo don’t wanna sit or for years. He will cave.

[boliodogs]

I'm going off what Mannix is saying. I listened to his podcast with Idec yesterday and he talked about Munguia being the likely opponent for GGG next.

I didn't say Fielding wasn't a gimme, it absolutely was. But he came back and fought Jacobs next and is now fighting Derevyanchenko.

I'm saying GGG got his gimme against Rolls, so should he be allowed to get another one against Munguia?

And you just proved my point. Munguia was disapproved for Canelo but apparently will be approved for GGG? Why is that? If he's seen as such a mismatch for Canelo, is he not seen as a mismatch for GGG?

If GGG fights Charlo/Andrade, that would be great. Which fight fan wouldn't love that? But it just seems like GGG is able to fight whoever he wants, while Canelo has to get his fights approved. That seems right to you?

Yes I agree with that. If Canelo can't fight Munguia DAZN should not approve GGG fighting Munguia. It's a mismatch. GGG should fight one of the available 160 pound champs and Jermall would be the most exciting. Andrade is good but is a runner when he fights a guy like GGG and it would probably not be a good fight to watch until GGG was able to catch up with him. Jermall would stand his ground and go to war so that's a better fight to watch.

[Eff Pandas]

Where DAZN messed up was not approving Munguia for Canelo. I mean if they were going to approve him for GGG, then should have done the same for Canelo. Why? Because that match up on Mexican Independence day would have been a HUGE success. Much bigger success than GGG vs Munguia.

I don't know, I could name about 10 LMWs that I think are better than Munguia. He just is a sitting duck and not that good. I fully understand his team trying to cash him out right now before he loses a decision to an mediocre fighter like Hogan...Which he easily could have last time out.

I think you make the Canelo vs Munguia fight bigger off of a Munguia W off of a name. Otherwise its virtually the same level fight if Munguia has his 0 or not. Thats why I think they'd prefer to throw Munguia at GGG or even Andrade perhaps. I wouldn't favor Munguia in either of those fights, but he's got some level of upset potential in both I feel like cuz Andrade is massively overrated & GGG is old as f#ck.

[KTFOKING]

canelo doesn’t want to sit out either and not get paid. DAZN is increasing world wide subscribers without Canelo

Canelo is the key to their US market subscribers.

Canelo may not want to sit out, but push him hard enough and he will make a stand. Then what do you do? It's already out that the MLB show has been a complete dud and waste of money as it barely is attracting any subscribers. So now what? What do you do until 2021?

Your other big star Joshua is likely to fight in Cardiff next which won't fully maximize the potential subscribers they can get from that fight.

People are going to pay to watch the likes of Haney, Cancio, Andrade etc? That's where you are putting all your eggs into?

Good luck with that.

[killakali]

you can't be serious? lol If they were in control he would be fighting GGG in sept. Is that happening? Nope. They have now moved the bar back multiple times and in a standoff Canelo flexed his muscles and put them on time out. Now they are approving a fight with Dervy as a last ditch effort to avoid Canelo telling them I won't fight until dec which is horrible for their business. canelo has the leverage he only fights twice a year anyway he get's paid the same if he fight in Sept or Oct or Nov or Dec. But for DAZN they lose millions in subscription revenue the longer Canelo goes from May without fighting.

They told him you have to fight GGG in sept then moved on and said ok you want to fight Kovalev but if that fight falls apart you have to fight GGG in sept. Canelo said nope gave them the finger and said nope I will sit and wait until Dec and deny you a sept fight then how you like that. And now DAZN scrambling saying ok fight who you want please don't wait until dec. They blinked first and have proven they can't tell Canelo what to do. What people don't get is if Canelo don't fight it hurts DAZN they launched in the US and in Boxing off his name. He is carrying their subscriptions he don't fight he takes his subscribers with him. It went from idiots saying DAZN is the boss they will make him fight GGG in Sept to now Canelo get's his way and they are on their knees begging him to pinky promise that he will fight GGG next year LMAO

You guys need to remember Canelo wants to fulfill his legacy. He wants two fights a year. Eventually they will compromise on an oppOnent

[killakali]

Canelo is the key to their US market subscribers.

Canelo may not want to sit out, but push him hard enough and he will make a stand. Then what do you do? It's already out that the MLB show has been a complete dud and waste of money as it barely is attracting any subscribers. So now what? What do you do until 2021?

Your other big star Joshua is likely to fight in Cardiff next which won't fully maximize the potential subscribers they can get from that fight.

People are going to pay to watch the likes of Haney, Cancio, Andrade etc? That's where you are putting all your eggs into?

Good luck with that.

You keep forgetting the worldwide subscribers

[KTFOKING]

Yes I agree with that. If Canelo can't fight Munguia DAZN should not approve GGG fighting Munguia. It's a mismatch. GGG should fight one of the available 160 pound champs and Jermall would be the most exciting. Andrade is good but is a runner when he fights a guy like GGG and it would probably not be a good fight to watch until GGG was able to catch up with him. Jermall would stand his ground and go to war so that's a better fight to watch.

Jermall vs GGG is the fight I've been pushing for a while. TREMENDOUS styles match up. Jermall struggles with fighters that can move and make him miss, but in the pocket he is very strong...Well, GGG isn't going to move and is also strong as an ox with a granite chin. Fight will be a great war.

[bigdunny1]

canelo doesn’t want to sit out either and not get paid. DAZN is increasing world wide subscribers without Canelo

What about US subscribers because that's why you signed Canelo to break ground in the US and break ground in boxing. If you only care about global subscribers then you don't launch in the US off the back of Canelo. Without Canelo fighting they lose all the US subscribers they built up in May and they know that which is why they already blinked after canelo refused to fight in Sept. DAZN can't afford to let canelo sit until Dec bleeding subscribers along the way so they caved and are now letting canelo pick who he wants to scrambling to get a Canelo fight before December because they are hurt more by Canelo not fighting then he is. If Canelo never fights again he cripples DAZN entire business in the US. He would take all their subscribers with him. They can't force him to fight anyone that much is clear if they could he would of fought GGG in Sept.

[KTFOKING]

You keep forgetting the worldwide subscribers

No, I'm not forgetting anything. We are talking US subscribers. Why would we talk about worldwide subscribers? And there is nothing like the US market. If DAZN wants to be a true force, it will have to do good in the US market. They aren't going to be fine wasting hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars with minimal subscribers and not having Canelo fight on their network.