DAZN Forcing Canelo to Commit to GGG Trilogy if he Wants to Fight Derevyanchenko

[KTFOKING]

Maybe you forgot Canelo tried to fight Munguia. GGG took one cherry pick in Rolls. Canelo also took a cherry pick in Fielding who was an even bigger cherry pick than Rolls. At least Rolls was undefeated and would probably beat Fielding who Smith KOed faster than Canelo did. Wait and see who GGG fights next instead of saying it will be another Rolls in advance.

I'm going off what Mannix is saying. I listened to his podcast with Idec yesterday and he talked about Munguia being the likely opponent for GGG next.

I didn't say Fielding wasn't a gimme, it absolutely was. But he came back and fought Jacobs next and is now fighting Derevyanchenko.

I'm saying GGG got his gimme against Rolls, so should he be allowed to get another one against Munguia?

And you just proved my point. Munguia was disapproved for Canelo but apparently will be approved for GGG? Why is that? If he's seen as such a mismatch for Canelo, is he not seen as a mismatch for GGG?

If GGG fights Charlo/Andrade, that would be great. Which fight fan wouldn't love that? But it just seems like GGG is able to fight whoever he wants, while Canelo has to get his fights approved. That seems right to you?

[Eff Pandas]

Honest question, do you think GGG should be allowed to fight Rolls/Munguia back to back in two gimme fights while getting paid 30M to do so? Let's say the Canelo fight will never happen, should DAZN also put some pressure on him to fight top competition? Or can he just pick and choose who he wants to fight for the duration of his deal?

To some extent DAZN might WANT him to take gimmee fights cuz he is the weaker link in this equation. He's older. He looks like he's slowing down more & more. So to preserve the fight I could see DAZN wanting him to not test himself too much.

I mean what good is a GGG vs Canelo III fight if GGG loses before you make it? Same difference as Canelo not taking it as we are in right now to me.

[KTFOKING]

The Kovalev fight is a big fight since it’s Canelo moving up a weight class. Kovalev has been around longer than any of these other guys & has had a few PPV fights as well so he’s more known than anyone outside of GGG in terms of potential opponents.

I suppose the Charlo fight could happen but I don’t see it happening. There’s never been any serious talks of it.

The reason DAZN signed GGG was mainly for the Canelo fight in the first place. It’s why they’re trying to get Canelo to make that fight. They can’t force Canelo to make the fight but they paid him so much money to make the best fights possible. They don’t want to see him fighting Rocky Fielding level fighters again.

There hasn't been any talks for the Charlo fight, but if Canelo wants it he could get it.

But Canelo has proven to take on tough challenges his entire career. For every Fielding, he is fighting the likes of Mayweather, GGG 2x, Trout, Lara and Jacobs. Derevyanchenko fight is perfectly fine.

What shouldn't be acceptable is Munguia being disapproved for Canelo but being approved for GGG. Why the double standards? Not like you are paying GGG peanuts, he's getting paid 15M or so a fight. Should treat him the same way.

[boliodogs]

Honest question, do you think GGG should be allowed to fight Rolls/Munguia back to back in two gimme fights while getting paid 30M to do so? Let's say the Canelo fight will never happen, should DAZN also put some pressure on him to fight top competition? Or can he just pick and choose who he wants to fight for the duration of his deal?

No I don't think GGG should fight Munguia any more than Canelo should. They are out of his class. Munguia is huge and weighs and amazing 176 on fight night so he has to go to middleweight. He is a game fighter and a good puncher but sort of a walking punching bag. Canelo or GGG will murder him and everyone knows it. I would like GGG to fight for a middleweight title against Dervy, Jermall, Andrade or Murata. If he fights Munguia or some lesser fighter I will disappointed.

[Jsmooth9876]

Most boxing fans got DAZN because they signed 2 prime big stars, Canelo Alvarez and Anthony Joshua, along with other popular fighters like GGG and they have Eddie Hearn fighters to look forward to, which includes Daniel Jacobs and Dillian Whyte if i’m not mistaken?

Okay, so in the end, still, the two big stars are Canelo and Joshua. One star, Joshua, took a big hit in his last fight, took an L. That puts him in a sort of rebuilding stage. So now they have one prime star left, whose momentum is still intact because he keeps winning and his fanbase keeps increasing. You lose him, you become just an okay app and lose 1 mill+ subs who subbed due to Canelo. Because they feel paying $100 a year is better than paying for individual Canelo PPV’s throughout the year, plus they get to see other boxers for that price.

This is of course, assuming Canelo/GBP can pay out of the contract due to DAZN’s attitude towards them. They are acting especially thirst/desperate towards Canelo now that Joshua took an L and it doesn’t seem like they want to force GGG to fight anyone with a pulse while waiting for Canelo.

It's crazy but Joshua losing will probably gain them subs when the rematch happens this winter. It's a big fight now where his next fight probably wouldn't have been anything more than a mandatory vs some other euro stiff .

Ggg vs Canelo is still what they're banking on though I'm sure

[KTFOKING]

To some extent DAZN might WANT him to take gimmee fights cuz he is the weaker link in this equation. He's older. He looks like he's slowing down more & more. So to preserve the fight I could see DAZN wanting him to not test himself too much.

I mean what good is a GGG vs Canelo III fight if GGG loses before you make it? Same difference as Canelo not taking it as we are in right now to me.

But I'm saying if the Canelo fight just isn't going to happen.

Let's say he fights Kovalev next and decides to campaign at LHW or SMW the rest of his career.

Then what? DAZN should just be fine paying GGG 15M a bout to fight Rolls/Munguia/etc the rest of his deal?

[KTFOKING]

No I don't think GGG should fight Munguia any more than Canelo should. They are out of his class. Munguia is huge and weighs and amazing 176 on fight night so he has to go to middleweight. He is a game fighter and a good puncher but sort of a walking punching bag. Canelo or GGG will murder him and everyone knows it. I would like GGG to fight for a middleweight title against Dervy, Jermall, Andrade or Murata. If he fights Munguia or some lesser fighter I will disappointed.

Exactly how I feel.

Good stuff.

[Eff Pandas]

But I'm saying if the Canelo fight just isn't going to happen.

Let's say he fights Kovalev next and decides to campaign at LHW or SMW the rest of his career.

Then what? DAZN should just be fine paying GGG 15M a bout to fight Rolls/Munguia/etc the rest of his deal?

If Canelo moves up you either have GGG move up, which I suspect he'd be down for for Canelo, or yea at that point there isn't anything you can do. Its business as usual at that point & you find new best fights to make. So no more Rolls type opponents.

I am cool with Munguia doe. He's a top guy in his division, even if he has a unoffical L or two on his record, so if he moves up he's fair game. Plus that undefeated Mexican fighter thing is always sellable in the US. Plus I do think Munguia might be better fit to fight at 160, a more healthy weight, so he might be a lil better there although in fairness thats taken an extra leap of faith on him & more than I'm willing to bound myself to.

[bigdunny1]

DAZN is the one in charge here not Canelo. If he doesn't fight the opponents that DAZN wants then they won't pay him. He works for their platform. Canelo has to understand that he has a family to feed.

They are his boss and he is their employee and if he doesn't do what he's told then they will have to fire his ass plain and simple. So it's either Canelo shape up or ship the fuck out! It's his choice!

If they are in charge then why isn't canelo fighting GGG in Sept?? And after he flexed on them they blinked and are now rushing to approve him fighting dervy and asking canelo please pinky promise that you will fight GGG next year lol

You don't ask for pinky promises if you are in charge. They wanted to force canelo to fight who they wanted in Sept and it backfired he told them if you don't want to let me fight who I want then I won't fight until Dec and I'll wait for Kovalev. Now they blinked and letting him pick the next guy he wants. They don't want canelo to sit and take his subscribers with him. It cost DAZN millions every month he doesn't fight and they are scrambling to not have him sit until Dec. Canelo gets paid either way when he fights. DAZN needs him more then he needs them that's why they caved.

[KTFOKING]

If Canelo moves up you either have GGG move up, which I suspect he'd be down for for Canelo, or yea at that point there isn't anything you can do. Its business as usual at that point & you find new best fights to make. So no more Rolls type opponents.

I am cool with Munguia doe. He's a top guy in his division, even if he has a unoffical L or two on his record, so if he moves up he's fair game. Plus that undefeated Mexican fighter thing is always sellable in the US. Plus I do think Munguia might be better fit to fight at 160, a more healthy weight, so he might be a lil better there although in fairness thats taken an extra leap of faith on him & more than I'm willing to bound myself to.

Where DAZN messed up was not approving Munguia for Canelo. I mean if they were going to approve him for GGG, then should have done the same for Canelo. Why? Because that match up on Mexican Independence day would have been a HUGE success. Much bigger success than GGG vs Munguia.

I don't know, I could name about 10 LMWs that I think are better than Munguia. He just is a sitting duck and not that good. I fully understand his team trying to cash him out right now before he loses a decision to an mediocre fighter like Hogan...Which he easily could have last time out.