Comments Thread For: Hearn: We'll Let Andy Ruiz Know Venue This Week, Cardiff in Front

[Marchegiano]

Edit: The uneducated, illiterate blacksmiths, farm hands, boatmen, etc, who took part in the first recorded boxing matches in England wouldn't have known jack shit about the Ancient Greeks or their Gods and they were definitely not knocking seven shades of shite out each other to honour Apollo!

Who is the money in early english boxing? Who gave away the first belt?

It isn't the boxers I claim have knowledge of anything. It's what was called "The Fancy" back in the day. They are what you'd assume. Are you so sure the royals and artistos were unaware of Apollo? How did America happen then? Just apply what you already know about history my dude....or don't and I'll teach y'all some ****in' ancient boxing and why you believe, to this day, some dumbass unscientific as **** ****, like power is something you're born with.

Either way, I don't think it's a very well kept secret and wouldn't have to rely on obscure history. Greece invented boxing just like Greece invented democracy. Yeah, sure, maybe some guys in Africa voted once prior to Greek democracy, but, that isn't what inspired America. Same for boxing, loads punched faces, the Greek version is why you do it the way you do today. Why you believe the nonsense you believe.

It's all Greek bubba.

[Cobra Curry]

For me Joshua has to go back to the MSG. That’s where he lost his titles, but as long as they get a ring and fairness then I couldn’t careless about the location. I understand why his team wants him to get his belts back at home and after reading all these PBC fangirls comments on here I could see why they want him to fight in the UK.

I'm with you.

Going back to MSG (and winning) would save a lot of face, while some will always hold it against him if he wins at home, even in a 1st round KO.
The "DAZN Takeover" thing also requires Joshua to go back to the scene of the crime.

I'm just against the idea that Joshua is obligated to make Ruiz comfortable.
Turpin beat Robinson in London, the rematch was in New York and no one thought twice about it.

[Ray*]

I'm with you.

Going back to MSG (and winning) would save a lot of face, while some will always hold it against him if he wins at home, even in a 1st round KO.
The "DAZN Takeover" thing also requires Joshua to go back to the scene of the crime.

I'm just against the idea that Joshua is obligated to make Ruiz comfortable.
Turpin beat Robinson in London, the rematch was in New York and no one thought twice about it.

True. The whole point of him going over to America was to do the takeover thing. So what does he do after a loss? Ran back home. I mean we criticise boxers for not leaving their comfort zones (Especially American boxers), so yeah it’s not a good look.

[Cobra Curry]

True. The whole point of him going over to America was to do the takeover thing. So what does he do after a loss? Ran back home. I mean we criticise boxers for not leaving their comfort zones (Especially American boxers), so yeah it’s not a good look.

Absolutely.

That said, I can see the logic in making sure you get the belts back and worrying about the rest later.
You can always go back and try again if that's you're goal.

[kafkod]

Boxing is Greek son. What the English revived was a Greek sport. They were not inspired by ancient Nubian or Chinese artifact. It was Greek.

They didn't revive anything and they weren't inspired by Nubians, Chinese, Greeks or anybody or anything else other than their own instinctive masculine urge to find out which of 2 strong, strapping young men could get the better of the other in a stand-up fist fight.

As a matter of fact, the earliest surviving depictions of men participating in what appears to be a stand up sporting fist fight come from ancient Sumeria - modern day Iraq - and predate the Ancient Greek sport by around 2,000 years!

Do you know what Occam's razor is? If so, use it .. it was invented for arguments like this one!

You're assuming Greek boxing is as disconnected from modern boxing as say Egyptian fist fighting or some such, but it isn't. There's direct lineage and surviving culture. Greek boxing is what inspired English boxing, no two ways about it bubba.

There is no evidence of any direct lineage or surviving cultural link between the classical Greek sport of Pygmachia and the 17h century English sport of Prize Fighting, which was given the name "boxing" not "Pygmachia" by the men who participated in it.

And as well as its own unique name, which isn't remotely derived from the Ancient Greek name, boxing had rings, rounds, weight divisions and a single referee to ensure fair play, none of which were derived from Pygmachia, because the Greek sport had none of those important elements.

Who is the money in early english boxing? Who gave away the first belt?

It isn't the boxers I claim have knowledge of anything. It's what was called "The Fancy" back in the day. They are what you'd assume. Are you so sure the royals and artistos were unaware of Apollo?
It's all Greek bubba.

The origins of Prize Fighting, or "boxing" in the English underclasses during the early part of the 17th century are well documented. The prize money came primarily from bets, not from the aristocracy,

[REDEEMER]

Who is the money in early english boxing? Who gave away the first belt?

It isn't the boxers I claim have knowledge of anything. It's what was called "The Fancy" back in the day. They are what you'd assume. Are you so sure the royals and artistos were unaware of Apollo? How did America happen then? Just apply what you already know about history my dude....or don't and I'll teach y'all some ****in' ancient boxing and why you believe, to this day, some dumbass unscientific as **** ****, like power is something you're born with.

Either way, I don't think it's a very well kept secret and wouldn't have to rely on obscure history. Greece invented boxing just like Greece invented democracy. Yeah, sure, maybe some guys in Africa voted once prior to Greek democracy, but, that isn't what inspired America. Same for boxing, loads punched faces, the Greek version is why you do it the way you do today. Why you believe the nonsense you believe.

It's all Greek bubba.

The Greeks didn't invent sport boxing. That's like saying Brazil invented MMA which was Vale Tudo in their country which had no rules in comparison to what the UFC actually created which was in the U.S but what was founded by the Gracies and Art Davie who drew up the ideas for the original UFC .

[Sid-Knee]

Unfortunately, this is most likely the case. **** Hearn, and **** Joshua. I hope Andy goes there, and knocks Joshuas head into outer space.

He's going to have to beat a crooked ref, and three crooked judges. Bull****!

You seem angry and delirious sweetypops. Tell me about the overseas fighters who went to the UK and won only to be ripped off?

Now try that with the US and you have wall to wall robberies. You're delusional and clearly a nutter who is mentally weak. Crying because Andy doesn't get home advantage again. Fair would be having the second fight in the UK as the first was in the US. But you don't do fair and reasonable because you're a pathetic little b1tch who feels the need to have as many advantages as you can get like all your coward fighters. You should be embarrassed to be an American talking this madness.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Hilarious to see PBC fanboys getting their excuses in already - and not just for the result of the fight but also for the choice of venue!

How about this one fellas ... if the fight ends up happening in the US, that will be because AJ insisted on having it there, no matter what Hearn or Ruiz wanted.

Me a PBC fanboy???? Now that's funny. LOL LOL LOL

Look dude, i don't give a *** about their rematch. What i find funny is how your God Hearn is going against his clients request of having the rematch in MSG and instead putting it in bum*** Cardiff Wales where he will have an ungodly amount of bias in every category of the fight.

To bad for Hearn though as Ruiz is so far in AJ's head that AJ will blow it again.

Call me crazy but IMO AJ has a better chance of winning and overcoming this Ruiz obstacle at MSG than in Cardiff Wales. You know going into this fight just having it in Cardiff or anywhere in the UK has AJ thinking that his team don't believe in him and that he needs to be on home turf to win this fight and with that in his head he will blow it again.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

[Sid-Knee]

This fight is setting up to be the farce of a century.

Im calling it now, absolutely no way will AJ come away clean in this fight. For one: Hearn is going to make sure AJ comes to this fight juiced out of his mind. Two: his way of victory will be absolutely tainted, one rally he makes on Ruiz and the ****ty ref they pick will stop the fight. Three: If for some reason it does go to the cards there is absolutely no way AJ will lose.

One thing that is also an absolute, after this fight when AJ walks away with his tainted victory and tainted version of the belt. His career is over. He will have to finish his ****ty career fighting fights tucked away in the U.K.

AJ gets properly tested but you're calling him a drug cheat? And you say that as an American with all the athletes you have failing tests left right and centre? Therefore, with all the drug cheats you have and having home advantage all the time, doesn't that mean all your wins are tainted?

What robberies have been committed against overseas fighters in the UK like they happen in the US all the time? You're clearly delusional by thinking this nonsense. You clearly have no self awareness and acknowledgement of all the corruption in your country. That's absurd.

Brits actually travel and show courage. It's Americans who duck even on home soil and refuse to travel. So what have you got to say about all your cowards around today and throughout history? Think before you type next time. That way you'll stand a chance of not coming off as a raving, delusional ret3rd.

[Sid-Knee]

I expect AJ's tape will come up 4 times per round, and his mouth guard will be spat just as often.

Ruiz will need to all his speed and skills to get around the ref, who will be shielding AJ the entire fight.

Expect more dodgy Glove work in the changing room from Team AJ. Like he was caught doing for Parker fight.

AJ used his mind to make the tape unravel to catch a rest? Hahahaha. You've been well and truly f3cked up in the head. All you post is angry and bitter madness. You're obsessed you creepy weirdo.

What was AJ caught doing with the gloves? You're making up more lies aren't you because you're emotionally damaged. Don't watch sport if it's far too much for you. F3cking nutjob.