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Originally posted by micky1971 View PostYou dumb kunt, you smelly yanks know nothing of British boxing. We invented the sport, and the rules (you follow like sheep) were invented by an Englishman.
Furthermore, there is nowhere but NOWHERE more corrupt than that stink hole where “yall good ole boys spawn” you fackin freak.
What’s the crack with your being the center of everything?
statistically we are better than you at EVERYTHING man for man so go check you fackin 5h1t ku t muvvas kunt ox kunt.
Now, in the words of the great Alan ford, “fack off”.
The rest of your bull**** is bull**** but you need a starting point. First step is accepting digging up ancient **** and mimicking it doesn't make you the inventor of it. It makes you a ****ing fan of someone else's culture. Basically, exactly what you claimed America is, dumbass. We're all exalting the Greeks when we box.
Apollo does not give a **** if you get on your knees and pray to him. In fact, that's not how you honor Apollo at all and he'd see it as a weak and annoying act. Apollo's ritual is boxing. Apollo, lord of science, invented the sweet science, far as the ancients are concerned.
You Christian Englishmen picked up a ritual that was put down by early Christians during the era when Rome was de-paganizing itself. Deemed it okay by God's law and went straight to performing pagan rituals while claiming some level of "Englishness" to it.
No, boxing is not British. It's not even a little bit British. It is Greek. Those who box honor Greece and Greek gods. Nothing more.
You could take Paul Bunyan, rewrite his stories to be more British, and claim it reflects England, but, we all know who the **** Paul is and what Paul is. You can't make Paul a limey. You can't make Apollo English. Just because y'all're so damn dumb as hell you've forgotten the story and rewrote your own doesn't make it true. It just makes you a sad example of someone reaching for a glory that is not theirs.
Now, let us all thank our Greek brothers for their addition to this bull**** we call life. They made it just a little better, respect.
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Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan View PostThis fight is setting up to be the farce of a century.
Im calling it now, absolutely no way will AJ come away clean in this fight. For one: Hearn is going to make sure AJ comes to this fight juiced out of his mind. Two: his way of victory will be absolutely tainted, one rally he makes on Ruiz and the ****ty ref they pick will stop the fight. Three: If for some reason it does go to the cards there is absolutely no way AJ will lose.
One thing that is also an absolute, after this fight when AJ walks away with his tainted victory and tainted version of the belt. His career is over. He will have to finish his ****ty career fighting fights tucked away in the U.K.Originally posted by JuniorTorres720 View PostHonestly I feel like Hearn knows that if it goes to the UK it was because they convinced Ruiz to do it over there. The dialogue after the first fight and how Ruiz didn’t confirm the location and said he’d go to the UK only if they paid him $50 mil, makes me feel like Hearn didn’t expect to be in this position so the venue was always uncertain. If it comes out that the rematch is taking place in the UK I feel like Hearn will come out and try to make it look like they were the ones in charge when all along they convinced Ruiz to go over there. Smoke and mirrors.
How about this one fellas ... if the fight ends up happening in the US, that will be because AJ insisted on having it there, no matter what Hearn or Ruiz wanted.
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostBoxing was invented by the Greeks as a training for their sword and shield war tactics.
The rest of your bull**** is bull**** but you need a starting point. First step is accepting digging up ancient **** and mimicking it doesn't make you the inventor of it. It makes you a ****ing fan of someone else's culture. Basically, exactly what you claimed America is, dumbass. We're all exalting the Greeks when we box.
Apollo does not give a **** if you get on your knees and pray to him. In fact, that's not how you honor Apollo at all and he'd see it as a weak and annoying act. Apollo's ritual is boxing. Apollo, lord of science, invented the sweet science, far as the ancients are concerned.
You Christian Englishmen picked up a ritual that was put down by early Christians during the era when Rome was de-paganizing itself. Deemed it okay by God's law and went straight to performing pagan rituals while claiming some level of "Englishness" to it.
No, boxing is not British. It's not even a little bit British. It is Greek. Those who box honor Greece and Greek gods. Nothing more.
You could take Paul Bunyan, rewrite his stories to be more British, and claim it reflects England, but, we all know who the **** Paul is and what Paul is. You can't make Paul a limey. You can't make Apollo English. Just because y'all're so damn dumb as hell you've forgotten the story and rewrote your own doesn't make it true. It just makes you a sad example of someone reaching for a glory that is not theirs.
Now, let us all thank our Greek brothers for their addition to this bull**** we call life. They made it just a little better, respect.
But the roots of the modern sport - and use of the word boxing itself, to describe that sport - were in 17th century England, with the introduction of the "Broughton rules for bare-knuckle boxing", which included weight divisions.
The Broughton rules were later formalised as "The London Prize Ring Rules" and then "The Marquess of Queensbury Rules", which were followed everywhere, including the USA.Last edited by kafkod; 07-23-2019, 09:11 AM.
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostBoxing was invented by the Greeks as a training for their sword and shield war tactics.
The rest of your bull**** is bull**** but you need a starting point. First step is accepting digging up ancient **** and mimicking it doesn't make you the inventor of it. It makes you a ****ing fan of someone else's culture. Basically, exactly what you claimed America is, dumbass. We're all exalting the Greeks when we box.
Apollo does not give a **** if you get on your knees and pray to him. In fact, that's not how you honor Apollo at all and he'd see it as a weak and annoying act. Apollo's ritual is boxing. Apollo, lord of science, invented the sweet science, far as the ancients are concerned.
You Christian Englishmen picked up a ritual that was put down by early Christians during the era when Rome was de-paganizing itself. Deemed it okay by God's law and went straight to performing pagan rituals while claiming some level of "Englishness" to it.
No, boxing is not British. It's not even a little bit British. It is Greek. Those who box honor Greece and Greek gods. Nothing more.
You could take Paul Bunyan, rewrite his stories to be more British, and claim it reflects England, but, we all know who the **** Paul is and what Paul is. You can't make Paul a limey. You can't make Apollo English. Just because y'all're so damn dumb as hell you've forgotten the story and rewrote your own doesn't make it true. It just makes you a sad example of someone reaching for a glory that is not theirs.
Now, let us all thank our Greek brothers for their addition to this bull**** we call life. They made it just a little better, respect.
This means. of course, that we must have been standing up and "boxing" each other to settle beefs and/or gain kudos among our contemporaries since long before the Ancient Greeks arrived to record the fisticuffs.
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...ights-061414#1
Edit: The uneducated, illiterate blacksmiths, farm hands, boatmen, etc, who took part in the first recorded boxing matches in England wouldn't have known jack shit about the Ancient Greeks or their Gods and they were definitely not knocking seven shades of shite out each other to honour Apollo!Last edited by kafkod; 07-23-2019, 09:45 AM.
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Personally, I'd prefer the MSG again but if Joshua wants it at home then so be it.
Andy got the title shot at home, asking him to return the favour is not unreasonable.
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Originally posted by Cobra Curry View PostPersonally, I'd prefer the MSG again but if Joshua wants it at home then so be it.
Andy got the title shot at home, asking him to return the favour is not unreasonable.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostMen have fought each other with their fists since the dawn of time, and sometimes in organized fights.
But the roots of the modern sport - and use of the word boxing itself, to describe that sport - were in 17th century England, with the introduction of the "Broughton rules for bare-knuckle boxing", which included weight divisions.
The Broughton rules were later formalised as "The London Prize Ring Rules" and then "The Marquess of Queensbury Rules", which were followed everywhere, including the USA.
Yep, fist fighting is different from boxing, good job, boxing was started by the greeks
Yep, in the 18th century the English revived boxing, I already covered this.
Boxing is Greek son. What the English revived was a Greek sport. They were not inspired by ancient Nubian or Chinese artifact. It was Greek.
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostI fail to see how this even begins to negate what I said.
Yep, fist fighting is different from boxing, good job, boxing was started by the greeks
Yep, in the 18th century the English revived boxing, I already covered this.
Boxing is Greek son. What the English revived was a Greek sport. They were not inspired by ancient Nubian or Chinese artifact. It was Greek.
Boxing as we know it was born in the Uk .... deal with it
Rounders was are s**t too before you guys turned it into baseballLast edited by Straightener; 07-23-2019, 11:29 AM.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostThe Greeks didn't invent boxing, or fist fighting. They were maybe the first people to leave historical records of men fighting each other with their fists, but use of the word boxing to describe fist fighting originated in England, and there is strong biological evidence that men, but not women, are genetically adapted for fist fighting via the process of evolution by natural selection.
This means. of course, that we must have been standing up and "boxing" each other to settle beefs and/or gain kudos among our contemporaries since long before the Ancient Greeks arrived to record the fisticuffs.
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...ights-061414#1
Edit: The uneducated, illiterate blacksmiths, farm hands, boatmen, etc, who took part in the first recorded boxing matches in England wouldn't have known jack shit about the Ancient Greeks or their Gods and they were definitely not knocking seven shades of shite out each other to honour Apollo!
You're assuming Greek boxing is as disconnected from modern boxing as say Egyptian fist fighting or some such, but it isn't. There's direct lineage and surviving culture. Greek boxing is what inspired English boxing, no two ways about it bubba.
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