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  • Originally posted by BangEM View Post
    Hearn is a moron who's yet to grasp how boxing works at the top and due to greed, all he cares about is making difficult fights and getting paid in the short term and not its overall consequences on long term goals. It's basically what happens with people who talk too much - being a good listener is always a better gift.

    Once that match with Miller fell through, especially since Miller is a perfect style/height for Josh to beat up comfortably and since there was no other ticket seller available...he could've picked any easy target who won't fight back for Josh to beat up comfortably. 1). That was his first time fighting in America and the pressure would be too much for him. 2). He needs a style he's comfortable with since it's on short notice and it's his introduction to new fan base. However, Eddie Hearn the dummy decided to go get the worst style matchup possible and a height nightmare for the guy. Then he added extra pressure on the guy to do it style and surpass what Wilder did against a human punching bag.

    On an even night with decent amount of pressure, AJ beats Ruiz comfortably 9 out of 10 times, if he's patient and fights his normal fight. But it's going to be a late stoppage due to cumulative punishment or he wins on point. Ruiz doesn't move his feet and he ploddes forward. And if Josh can control the distance (which he knows how to do when he's comfortable) and use his jab and uppercut to keep Ruiz at bay - Ruiz won't get anywhere near him. He beats Ruiz comfortably in the rematch.

    This is a case Al Haymon can NEVER win. His attorneys couldn't win the Povetkin litigation and PBC had to cough out millions. So what makes you think they have a chance with this one? I'm sure Matchroom would be seeking at at least $70million, including the $5million they paid Ruiz for the first fight. Then Ruiz would lose all the belts because he won't be able to take other fights and fight the mandatories. And for every potential fight AJ misses, he would also have to pay what AJ is meant to earn. Where's the bankrupt PBC and broke Ruiz going to get that type of money from? The only other option is for Ruiz to retire and give all the belts away. Or pray AJ changes his mind about rematch which is NEVER going to happen. AJ likes money a lot and he won't turn down the possibility of making at least £30million for a fight even if Ruiz is going to beat him to a pulp, lool.

    The only mandatory that's due from now till early next year is WBO and USyk is the mandatory. I don't even think AJ needs that belt and he'll most likely drop it when he wins the rematch. IBF can't force a mandatory now since Pulev is still serving a ban. And I'm pretty sure they prefer a cash cow holding that belt. As for WBA: he just fought Povetkin, their mandatory and the belt is clear until 2021.

    The rematch is going to happen in Cardiff on 14th December and it will be announced this week or the next one. DAZN has no say in the rematch (AJ isn't signed to them). The only thing delaying the announcement is the time the bout starts. I think they're trying to make it happen somewhat late around 1 or 2am, so American fans would be able to watch it as well. That's the DAZN negotiation that's holding it back. Once that's done, Ruiz will get the orders via PBC.
    You are insane! I think both sides would want to avoid a costly and lengthy litigation that could drag on for several months or even years. It's counterproductive for both parties involved.

    The two sides just need to come together and iron out a new deal for the rematch. That is the only way a lawsuit can be averted.

    Moreover, it won't be fair for the B-side who is no longer the champion to call all of the shots this time around? Whatever happened to the phrase "To the victor goes the spoils"?

    In their first meeting, Joshua held all the cards. He chose everything on down to the referee. So why is having the venue staged in the U.S. Is asking for too much? It's not like he is asking for a larger cut of the purse split.

    You have to judge each case by its merits. So it's a good thing that you are not the presiding judge over this case because Team Ruiz wouldn't stand a chance. You are obviously partial towards Matchroom Sport and Anthony Joshua.

    However, don't believe for a second that the PBC is just going to lay down and watch one of their clients get screwed by corrupt boxing officials on foreign soil. If that is indeed, the case then they must challenge the legality of this rematch clause in court.

    The deck is already highly stacked against Andy Ruiz enough. It would be doubly stacked against him if the rematch is staged in the U.K.

    The only way he walks out of that arena with those title belts again is unless he knocks AJ out.

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    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      How do you know that? You are not an attorney. You haven't seen or read the contract and neither have I but Al Haymon has. Obviously, his legal team has found a loophole in the rematch clause and they are planning on exploiting it.

      Who knows? Perhaps the two sides can come together and reach an out of court settlement or agreement. However, it's going to cost Matchroom a lot of money. I am pretty sure that Team Ruiz will be willing to settle for about $30 mil.
      $30million is not enough! Andy is the A side now and he has the smartest, most powerful man in boxing backing him!

      $100million or AJ and Fast Eddie can go kick rocks!

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      • We are allowing the voices of Andy's demented fans to speak for him. We should wait until Andy himself has something definitive to say.

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        • Unless the contract Ruiz signed says differently, they will fight where Hearn/Joshua want to. I'm sure Hearn didn't neglect to put that in the contract.

          I don't think anyone wants to breach contracts, and stir up talk of being sued, court cases and fight injunctions ala Lewis/Rahman.

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          • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            $30million is not enough! Andy is the A side now and he has the smartest, most powerful man in boxing backing him!

            $100million or AJ and Fast Eddie can go kick rocks!
            No, $100 mil is too much. $30 mil would do. It's not like he is signing his life away to Matchroom Sport like AJ.

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            • One thing we have seen for the last year is that Hearn will do what is best for DAZN...And I'm sorry, Cardiff is not that. DAZN won't get to maximize their subscription base with the fight taking place in the UK. There is a ceiling of just how much networks benefit from afternoon fights.

              So either Joshua is making the call here or Hearn is bluffing a bit. One or the other, but I believe Hearn will still prefer it in NY........Because that's where DAZN wants it.

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              • Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                One thing we have seen for the last year is that Hearn will do what is best for DAZN...And I'm sorry, Cardiff is not that. DAZN won't get to maximize their subscription base with the fight taking place in the UK. There is a ceiling of just how much networks benefit from afternoon fights.

                So either Joshua is making the call here or Hearn is bluffing a bit. One or the other, but I believe Hearn will still prefer it in NY........Because that's where DAZN wants it.
                LMAO! What has AJ got to do with Hearn's contract with DAZN? And when was the last time AJ posted anything about Matchroom on his social media pages?

                You lot give Hearn more power than he has because AJ gave him a free hand in the past and was loyal to a fault. He can run his mouth as much as he likes but DAZN has no say in the rematch.

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                • Originally posted by BangEM View Post
                  LMAO! What has AJ got to do with Hearn's contract with DAZN? And when was the last time AJ posted anything about Matchroom on his social media pages?

                  You lot give Hearn more power than he has because AJ gave him a free hand in the past and was loyal to a fault. He can run his mouth as much as he likes but DAZN has no say in the rematch.
                  I said exactly what I meant. You have interviews with Hearn saying he will decide where the rematch takes place since he is the promoter.



                  So yeah, if it is up to HIM, he will do what DAZN wants him to do...Or I mean that is what he has done since he's got that DAZN deal. If it does take place in Cardiff, it will be because that's where Joshua wants it and he made the final decision.

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                  • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    You are insane! I think both sides would want to avoid a costly and lengthy litigation that could drag on for several months or even years. It's counterproductive for both parties involved.

                    The two sides just need to come together and iron out a new deal for the rematch. That is the only way a lawsuit can be averted.

                    Moreover, it won't be fair for the B-side who is no longer the champion to call all of the shots this time around? Whatever happened to the phrase "To the victor goes the spoils"?

                    In their first meeting, Joshua held all the cards. He chose everything on down to the referee. So why is having the venue staged in the U.S. Is asking for too much? It's not like he is asking for a larger cut of the purse split.

                    You have to judge each case by its merits. So it's a good thing that you are not the presiding judge over this case because Team Ruiz wouldn't stand a chance. You are obviously partial towards Matchroom Sport and Anthony Joshua.

                    However, don't believe for a second that the PBC is just going to lay down and watch one of their clients get screwed by corrupt boxing officials on foreign soil. If that is indeed, the case then they must challenge the legality of this rematch clause in court.

                    The deck is already highly stacked against Andy Ruiz enough. It would be doubly stacked against him if the rematch is staged in the U.K.

                    The only way he walks out of that arena with those title belts again is unless he knocks AJ out.
                    LMAO. Only you PBC goons cum Ruiz fan girls are pushing this idea on the internet. And probably fat Ruiz because he's uneducated (he seems to be more aware in his last interview on Saturday). Those running things at PBC and Ruiz's coach know what time it's.

                    It won't cost Matchroom that much legal fees relative to what they're going to get in return. However, it will cost Ruiz every penny he has earned thus far in his career and more money than PBC is worth.

                    Stay tuned for the big announcement later this week or the next one. The fight is the UK. When it's announced, Al will send Ruiz over like he did with Charles Martin.

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                    • Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                      One thing we have seen for the last year is that Hearn will do what is best for DAZN...And I'm sorry, Cardiff is not that. DAZN won't get to maximize their subscription base with the fight taking place in the UK. There is a ceiling of just how much networks benefit from afternoon fights.

                      So either Joshua is making the call here or Hearn is bluffing a bit. One or the other, but I believe Hearn will still prefer it in NY........Because that's where DAZN wants it.
                      Hearn couldn’t careless at this point about DAZN 😂. And like Adam smith just said on an interview with IFL TV, he is confident that fight is happening in Cardiff at 11pm, instead of 4/5am. Hearn main priority is getting those belts back. He fancies AJ’s chances in the UK more than if the rematch happens in America. If that means taking less money that’s exactly what he would do.

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