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  • #61
    Originally posted by Senor_frogs View Post
    Run it back in Vegas. Don’t go to the Uk. AJ got somewhere close to 20 seconds to recover from a knock down at MSG(not blaming AJ)!! They’ll probably give him a minute over there or they’ll turn off the lights. Andy should tell Hern it’s either here in America or no fight.
    I hope Ruiz has the power to say that, but I doubt the contract he signed wouldn’t prevent him from saying so. That’s the chances you take when you are a voluntary challenger, otherwise you can wait for 3 years to get a shot like Whyte. Or you can risk a lawsuit like Hasim Rahman nearly did with his rematch against Lennox Lewis.

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    • #62
      Ruiz signed a contract that if he won 1st fight that the rematch would be in a venue of AJ Joshua's choosing so yes Joshua would be calling the shots for rematch

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Straightener View Post
        Is that fact ? Genuine question

        I haven’t seen anything of the contract yet ... Ruiz might have a case if the rematch wasn’t in the contract ect
        Actually, this is what was circulating earlier this week but I don’t know if it’s true or not.

        “Matchroom promoter Hearn says the contract for the second bout has a clause giving ex-world heavyweight champ AJ the final say over the venue.”

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        • #64
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          The venue would not be written into the contract. Who gets to pick the venue definitely would be written into the contract, and it will be AJ and Hearn who make that choice.

          Hearn is not negotiating anything with Ruiz, he will be negotiating stuff like fees, percentage cuts, etc, with different venues who have bid for the fight, and weighing the financial benefits against the benefit to AJ of having home advantage in Cardiff.
          Ok. We'll see......

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
            I think the hold up is AJ, Sky, & DAZN. AJ & Sky obviously want it in the UK. DAZN wants it in the US. Even more now that that September Canelo fight was cancelled.

            Also the money. The splits were probably agreed to for the rematch but the actual dollars weren't because you can't gauge the amount of money the second fight will make before you have the first fight. So if more money can be made in the US then Ruiz doesn't want to go to the UK unless he's getting more than what he could've made here
            It doesn't matter what Ruiz wants. He signed a legally binding contract and he will have to honour the promise he made in that contract or face the consequences in court.

            Hearn has said he isn't worried about needing to get legal on Ruiz, because Andy is an honourable man who will keep his word and fulfill the terms of his contract.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BangEM View Post
              Keep dreaming, lol.

              You think AJ is dumb, don't you? The fat Mexican has to do it in the UK winter to show he can win without a fluke hook shot.
              Fluke shot you act as if he was knocked out with a single punch. AJ was assaulted that night. That “Fat Mexican” gave him a beating. Put him down multiple times and made him quit. So it doesn’t really matter where the fight takes place. It’s not like Joshua will all of sudden have a chin. Or his heart will grow 3 times its size if they fight in the UK Can’t fix a glass Chin. Just ask Kahn. And either you have HEART or you don’t. So yeah
              Last edited by Senor_frogs; 07-21-2019, 04:27 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                It doesn't matter what Ruiz wants. He signed a legally binding contract and he will have to honour the promise he made in that contract or face the consequences in court.

                Hearn has said he isn't worried about needing to get legal on Ruiz, because Andy is an honourable man who will keep his word and fulfill the terms of his contract.
                Ok. We'll see....

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                • #68
                  lol UK contract lawyers out in full force.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                    I hope Ruiz has the power to say that, but I doubt the contract he signed wouldn’t prevent him from saying so. That’s the chances you take when you are a voluntary challenger, otherwise you can wait for 3 years to get a shot like Whyte. Or you can risk a lawsuit like Hasim Rahman nearly did with his rematch against Lennox Lewis.
                    Or threaten to retire - and mean it - unless you get a new contract giving you the lion's share of the rematch money and the right to chose the date and venue, like Andre Ward did with Kovalev.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by markther View Post
                      Actually, this is what was circulating earlier this week but I don’t know if it’s true or not.

                      “Matchroom promoter Hearn says the contract for the second bout has a clause giving ex-world heavyweight champ AJ the final say over the venue.”
                      He also said AJ choose MSG. So why is this still an issue?

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