No matter how you look at it floyd is above manny.

[siablo14]

Not at the age pac is he wouldnt

he looked shot to **** vs mcgregor

Red - Floyd wasn't taking that fight serious.

[daggum]

pac landed the much cleaner punches and beat floyd. you didnt pay attention when watching the fight. its already been analyzed to death but stay ignorant. its for your own mental stability. you would never want to admit what really happened. you cant

[BoloShot]

Most the men you named that he beat more convincingly was either coming off a loss or has looked bad coming into the fight with manny. Floyd fought delahoya at his rules and weight. Fought a undefeated hatton and mosley after destroying margarito.

Manny got them after they lost to floyd or didn’t look good in there previous fight.

And if floyd fought the likes of a Jeff horn or Chris algirie he would get crucified.

I don't see how there's much of a difference between Algieri and Horn and say a Victor Ortiz and Andre Berto. Mosley and Cotto were faded for both men, but beaten worse by Pac. Mayweather didn't fight Hatton at his weight, Pac did and knocked him out so sweetly. Marquez is Floyd's best win IMO, his fight against De La Hoya was close, not a dominant Floyd for certain. In fact he rarely dominated top fighters. Maidana made him struggle badly the first time out. Guerrero was an alright win in fairness. He has a very good resumé does Floyd, but its not as good.

[daggum]

On all time rankings manny will never ever be higher then floyd. Those who are bringing up lomata to robinson or louis to Marciano it's not the same as floyd pac. Marciano and lomata had critically critically weak resumes in comparison to Robinson and louis. Very weak by comparison. Mayweather and pac had almost a tic for tact resume with pac edging it. The problem is both fought and pac won no more then 3 rounds.....with such close resumes that catapulted mayweather far ahead of manny in greatness perspective. Manny would have to beat Crawfords Spence's guys like that.

really now? please tell me the 7 rounds floyd clearly won and we can analyze them. clean punch for clean punch. you didnt pay attention to the fight. at all. i can understand someone who just took a broad view of the fight thinking floyd just edged it but to say he won it that clearly is just absurd. just because it was a boring slow fight doesnt mean floyd was winning it. its called clean punching and one guy was getting his head smashed around and it wasnt pac. oh no watch out for that lil grazing jab from floyd! i guess he wins the round!

[Left Hook Tua]

Floyd has nothing in his career to match

Barrera, Marquez, Morales

Floyd wouldn't fight cotto or margarito

Floyd has never come back from a loss or been a last minute replacement or scored an upset win in the champions country

Greatness = manny

Now if you wanna say floyd can beat manny head to head

Sure the styles matchup favors floyd as do size

But floyd doesn't have pacs balls

[The tucker]

I don't see how there's much of a difference between Algieri and Horn and say a Victor Ortiz and Andre Berto. Mosley and Cotto were faded for both men, but beaten worse by Pac. Mayweather didn't fight Hatton at his weight, Pac did and knocked him out so sweetly. Marquez is Floyd's best win IMO, his fight against De La Hoya was close, not a dominant Floyd for certain. In fact he rarely dominated top fighters. Maidana made him struggle badly the first time out. Guerrero was an alright win in fairness. He has a very good resumé does Floyd, but its not as good.

There are major differences . NOBODY KNEW Jeff horn and was known for nothing before the fight with Pac. Ortiz had fight of the year and won a world title in beating the unbeaten berto before fighting Floyd. And algirie its best known for his back flips in the ring and beating ruslan.

Manny fought the same guys coming off of losing streaks or they didn’t look good in the previous fight.

[Xi_]

You morons are actually using this Thurman win as if it catapults Pacquiao over Floyd? Lmao. What a joke.

[EdWins]

[QUOTE=deathofaclown;19920343]Do what? It was a very competitive fight with the right winner

FLoyd would almost shut out someone basic like Thurman

Anyway, If you wanna compare their careers then you could say Pac has had a better or more exciting career but Floyd was a still the better fighter anyway.[/QUOTE]

actually i would say its the other way around.

Floyd had the overall better career, he finished undefeated, rarely ever looked vulnerable

Pac tho has always been the better more exciting fighter that people actually pay to see whereas people pay to see floyd fights in hopes to see him lose.

[RetroSpeed05]

Who refused the drug test? And now feels 20 yers old at 40 with no vada testing lol.

Not to accuse anyone but its crazy how Pac got this reputation of a drug cheat when he never had rumors of failing any test he took.

Floyd had more circumstantial evidence of doping than Pac ever did.

Vampire facials, Illegal IV's, Making usada wait for a piss test for hours when they came for the Mosley fight, rumors that he failed 3 drug tests.

Also this

An example of what they might have found was uncovered by SB Nation in lab reports from the Nevada commission. Mayweather recorded abnormally low testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratios before two fights — the subtext: epitestosterone can be used to attempt to counterbalance performance-enhancing testosterone use before a test.)

[Slicc]

What your basically saying is your a Floyd fanboy and there’s nothing pac can do to be greater! But fanboys like yourself aren’t realistic now are you?
People wanted the fight without cw but nobody was saying it was a historically great fight for Floyd as Floyd was beating a great champ. People thought it was too soon for nelo. Nelo was unknown so they fast tracked him to become known with ssm fight. Nelo only win of note was trout as he’d beaten cotto. But even trout was one hit wonder.
PACs always been above Floyd even when koed by jmm and losing to floyd. People may have naively thought otherwise. But that’s down to naivety

Let's not forget that it wasn't just a catchweight either. Floyd put a rehydration clause on top of the catchweight, so Canelo was drained af.