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Originally posted by Jimmy 23 View PostStop with this bs.Win over Canelo much better than over Thurman. Canelo destroyed Josecito Lopez and Mayweather destroyed Canelo. Thurman was almost knocked out by Lopez.
"Canelo was weight drained and too young at that stage when he fought Cotto's brother"
-and you could argue the same for the floyd fight.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostI was hoping Thurman ko’d Manny because I am not a Manny fan. It has nothing to do with manny surpassing Floyd.
Look you already tried to gerrymander manny’s career into being great except when he fought Floyd. That is utterly pathetic.
This win illustrates that Manny is a great fighter. We all knew that.
This also makes his fans like you that have tried to erase the Floyd right or the Horn loss look like ridiculous slurping pole riders. Stop trying to make everything manny does about Floyd. It’s boring.
Manny has had a great career. He has had some great wins and some tough losses. He’s properly positioned on the ATG list of fighters as somewhere in the top 30 but well behind Floyd on every credible list. Don't disgrace yourself with belittling what Pac achieved last night and comparing it to a cw win. Compare flouds nel o win to cotto or margarita win
However, according to you he is nothing but a past prime flyweight with no kos so maybe this win is meaningless.
See what happens when you do dumb f@ggoty crap like trying to minimize manny just because Floyd beat him?
When he has a great win your idiotic opinion comes back to bite you in the add.
Now go slither back under your rock and just enjoy the win without attaching floyd to it.
Don't make more of Floyd win over pac than it is. Floyd s cw over nel o can't be compared to what Pac did last night. Pac did what no natural WW has did in over 100 years of boxing, a former flyweight with 71 fights under belt.Last edited by hugh grant; 07-21-2019, 04:28 PM.
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People are legit ******ed in this forum. How does a guy who has a clean, easy and decisive win over the other, while being retired and way past prime get slighted because the same person who was easily pinned and reduced to someone too gunshy to fight......become slighted off the strength of said guy winning at age 40?
Wouldn't that make Floyd a better ATG fighter that he was able to win against that guy? The same guy people said Floyd waited to get older....EVEN THOUGH.....FLOYD IS OLDER?
So which one is it? Yeah, he had a torn rotator cuff, that ****** lie. At the end of the day, all this win did was make Floyd look that much better.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFloyd beat pac But has a weaker resume. Horn beat pac But has weaker resume. Jmm beat pac But has weaker resume.
Don't make more of Floyd win over pac than it is. Floyd s cw over nel o can't be compared to what Pac did last night. Pac did what no natural WW has did in over 100 years of boxing, a former flyweight with 71 fights under belt.
If the manny win isn’t a big deal, then stop talking about manny as a an ATG. If Manny is an ATG, then give Floyd credit for being 38 and beating him so decisively.
Otherwise if you try and minimize every Floyd win, I will simply apply those criteria to every good manny win and Floyd still comes out ahead. For example, you talk about the cw in the Canelo fight and therefore canelo was drained. Ok look at cotto and Morales wins with the same lens and they become lesser.
If the manny win is no good because jmm beat him, then the Barrera win, under the same lens, is no good because jones beat him.
So just give Floyd credit for his wins the same way you do manny and just accept Floyd is the consensus best of his era.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostFloyd’s resume includes manny and Canelo so it is impossible for Floyd’s resume to be weaker since those wins are better than anyone manny has fought.
If the manny win isn’t a big deal, then stop talking about manny as a an ATG. If Manny is an ATG, then give Floyd credit for being 38 and beating him so decisively.
Otherwise if you try and minimize every Floyd win, I will simply apply those criteria to every good manny win and Floyd still comes out ahead. For example, you talk about the cw in the Canelo fight and therefore canelo was drained. Ok look at cotto and Morales wins with the same lens and they become lesser.
If the manny win is no good because jmm beat him, then the Barrera win, under the same lens, is no good because jones beat him.
So just give Floyd credit for his wins the same way you do manny and just accept Floyd is the consensus best of his era.
Floyd s win over pac is fantastic for floyds lacking depth resume just as it is for jmms and horns. I'm sure they're proud of it. If jmm beat pac 4 times he'd still think Pac was best of era. You want us think Floyd fans don't think pac s goat because Floyd beat pac once? Don't give floyd preferential treatment.
One win can't make up for all trying to get things in his favour I'm afraid and home advantage and other nasty Floyd traits that put Floyd lower down atg listsLast edited by hugh grant; 07-21-2019, 06:26 PM.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostOk, show me.
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Originally posted by Jimmy 23 View PostPacquiao was a favorite. Stop pretending that this win was over guys like Spence or Crawford. These guys really at their primes not Thurman
You're just taking credit away from Pacquiao for no reason. I considered Thurman a favourite in the fight personally, so I have to give Pac his probs.
In regards to him over taking Mayweather in the ATGs... I'm not so sure. It's hard for me to forget how easy Mayweather beat him in their fight.
Pacquiao has the better resume I'd say, but he also has more blips.
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Originally posted by fighter1234 View PostThis win tips Pacquiao above him in the ATG list. Beating a prime undefeated welterweight for his belt at the age of 40 puts him top 10 all time IMO.
Floyd fighting Canelo was NOT a risk, at all.
Floyd was smart as a boxer, but he was obsessed with his '0' to the point where all he did was cherry pick since Hatton.
I'ts not hard to keep an '0' if you avoid prime fighters.
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