Is Deontay Wilder the dumbest boxer ever?

[DaNeutral.]

Well, what makes it so? Tell me how is Wilder dumb and what makes him dumb?

I will tell you who is dumb and that is Eddie Hearn by bringing his cash cow to the states to get knocked the fuck out by a cherrypicked, last minute opponent on short notice with no venue in the rematch clause.

He could have easily chosen an easier route for AJ, like Trevor Bryan or Michael Hunter. Yet with Eddie Hearn's stubborn pride and infinite wisdom, he chose Andy Ruiz, Jr instead; Now Joshua career would never be the same again.

AJ will lose the rematch and Eddie has no one to blame but himself because he chose both the opponent, and the venue. That's what he gets for poaching PBC fighters.

Now it has backfired in his face since there was no venue stipulated in the rematch clause. He left that part of the contract blank.

So at the moment Al Haymon has Eddie Hearn by the balls and can stall the rematch for as long as he wants, until Eddie Hearn is willing and ready to negotiate and agree to all of Haymon's terms in good faith or risk losing all of the belts to the PBC by default.

That is what I call the makings and statue of Goddamned fool my friend; Eddie Hearn not Deontay Wilder. Wilder is at least 100 times smarter than Eddie Hearn and is currently the WBC world heavyweight champion and is still undefeated.

While, Eddie Hearn's fighter Anthony Joshua on the other hand, is both title less and no longer undefeated.

LOL OK. It sounds to like you are a fan of cherry picks seeing as you mock hearn and Joshua for taking competitive fights over easy cherry picks. But that's Americans for you.

[champion4ever]

And isn't it dumb that with all the money in sports in America, the American heavyweight champion's destiny is attached to British boxers to get paid? Josh never needed an American to get paid, he created his own lane (by himself, I might add because he started it before he signed with Matchroom) and has been able to get the most of out it within a short period of time.

Now you hold you there and wait a minute! It was a former British heavyweight champion's destiny to attach his name to an American boxer to get paid; Which was Tyson Fury. Hell if it hadn't been for Deontay Wilder, Fury would have still been an unknown on skid row someplace in England.

However, it was Wilder who pulled him out of the gutter by throwing him a lifeline to fight for his WBC title. A title defense that he did not earn or deserve.

Also, if it wasn't for Wilder, Fury wouldn't have gotten that $100 mil ESPN deal or have gotten the rub he's getting here in the states either.

Now as far as Anthony Joshua is concerned; Well, then explain the rationalization of him coming over here fighting in the states in the first place? He had no reason to fight here. He wasn't fighting Deontay Wilder for the undisputed crown.

When he did have the opportunity to fight Wilder he turned him down. So why did Matchroom and Eddie Hearn's dumb ass bring him over to the states to fail?

He had a date set for Wembley on April 13. However, Eddie's dumb ass didn't utilize it. That's right Eddie Hearn's dumb ass miscalculated.

In addition, he has ruined AJ's career. He handpicked an opponent that Joshua did not know or had the proper time to prepare for; So that right there my friend is what I call dumb. When he could have easily a chosen a much safer opponent and someone Joshua knew.

You can talk about Wilder all you want but Wilder is about to become the first undisputed world heavyweight champion in 20 years which is smart. Moreover, he has aligned himself with the smartest man in boxing Al Haymon.

Which is why he has the deepest stable of boxers in the world and controls all of boxing because now he controls the heavyweight crown. He holds all four major Heavyweight title belts in his stable.

So check yourself mate and know what the Hell you are talking about before calling someone dumb and spewing out ****** and foolish bollocks.

[BangEM]

Now you hold on there and wait a minute. You said that Josh never needed an American to get paid, he created his own lane?

Well, then explain the rationalization of him coming over here fighting in the states in the first place? He had no reason to fight here. He wasn't fighting Deontay Wilder for the undisputed crown.

When he did have the opportunity to fight Wilder he turned him down. So why did Matchroom and Eddie Hearn's dumb ass bring him over to the states to fail?

He had a date set for Wembley on April 13. However, Eddie's dumb ass didn't utilize it. That's right Eddie Hearn's dumb ass miscalculated.

In addition, he has ruined AJ's career. He handpicked an opponent that Joshua did not know or had the proper time to prepare for; So that right there my friend is what I call dumb. When he could have easily a chosen a much safer opponent and someone Joshua knew.

You can talk about Wilder all you want but Wilder is about to become the first undisputed world heavyweight champion in 20 years which is smart. Moreover, he has aligned himself with the smartest man in boxing Al Haymon.

Which is why he has the deepest stable of boxers in the world and controls all of boxing because now he controls the heavyweight crown. He holds all four major Heavyweight title belts in his stable.

Also, it was a former British heavyweight champion's destiny to attach his name to an American boxer to get paid; Which was Tyson Fury. Hell if it hadn't been for Deontay Wilder, Fury would have still been an unknown on skid row someplace in England.

However, it was Wilder you pulled him out of the gutter by throwing him a lifeline to fight for his WBC title. A title defense that he did not earn or deserve.

Also, if it wasn't for Wilder, Fury wouldn't have gotten that $100 mil ESPN deal or have gotten the rub he's getting here in the states either. So check yourself mate and know what the Hell you are talking about before calling someone dumb and spewing out utter and ridiculous bollocks.

It wasn't Josh's idea to go to America and he was also against the "British Invasion" narrative Hearn created because it's bad for his brand. Left to him, he didn't want to go to America and he believes the UK is doing well now and there's no point going to America. He's already making over $20million per fight here, what's there in America for him? Chisora said it best when he said, "it's all Eddie Hearn's fault" after the fight.

Hearn needed Josh's star power to expand Matchroom USA and his deal with DAZN (that was the plan). And most likely get Wilder vs Josh 1 in the US before returning to the UK for the rematch. But his plan fell apart after Big Baby failed the drug test. After that, Josh wanted Ortiz because to him, every heavyweight is dangerous and most times, it's the ones you don't rate that will beat you. And he has fought a Southpaw before and did extremely well. Also, Ortiz is slow and he doesn't have a great chin. But Ortiz and his team ducked the fight. However, Matchroom being Matchroom with a lot of dumb jocks working as match makers for the company, they went for the worst style matchup they could possibly find for Josh. Josh doesn't fight well against short guys and Ruiz also has fast hands and granite chin. They had no reason to pick Ruiz and he isn't a good sell for casuals. Josh and his team rejected Ruiz as a late replacement but Hearn forced the issue. The pressure also mounted with the hype about how Wilder destroyed Breazeale in a round and it was all now on Josh to put on a better performance than Wilder did, against a live opponent with granite chin and fast hands. Hearn also kept putting the Wilder pressure on the guy with all his shenanigans on the week leading up to the fight. And if you watched all the interviews Josh did on fight week, you could tell from his body language that everything is alright and he wasn't right for the fight.

Hearn is a dumb jock who rode Josh's back to where he's today and he's lucky Josh fell on his lap. I'm not a fan of Haymon but he's a nuclear physicist and genius compared to Hearn.

As for Wilder and Fury: for all Tyson Fury's shenanigans/antics, he and Josh are the two smartest boxers alive. With Fury, he knows how to maximise opportunities and cover up his weakness. And he's the type of guy that would sell bread to a baker. Not a fan of Fury but he's a very smart guy.

Wilder saw Fury as an opportunity to catch another big name in British boxing unaware when he isn't ready because he was the former champion that got stripped/banned for drugs. However, Fury peeped the game and he knew Wilder isn't a thinking boxer and he could easily beat him by getting into his and staying away from the only weapon he has, as a one-trick pony. And to put himself back in contention, at that stage when he's not fully ready, Wilder is the only top heavyweight he could beat. He didn't go near Josh and Dillian Whyte for a reason because he knows both would hurt him in different ways and they're not as emotional as Wilder. So, the credit belongs to Fury not Wilder. And he'll disgrace Wilder again in the rematch (Wilder is a good style matchup for Fury). He got the job done and got himself $100 million from ESPN. He's the winner not Wilder.

[redmish]

i would like to see a game of chess between Deontay & Scott Quigg.

And the winner plays Terry Flanagan, the benchmark for all the uneducated.