Why does GGG always get credit for imaginary wins???

[Robbie Barrett]

Lara was never anything special and Cotto was a faded SLW/WW. Neither of them were any better than prime Murray when they fought Canelo.

That's just embarrassing. Truly pathetic claim.

[kafkod]

So Weisfeld is only biased when he doesn't score it for Golovkin? Righto.

No, but he is biased when he's judging a Canelo fight.

[Boxing_1013]

If he cant see that Cotto and Lara are levels above Murray and Lemieux in terms of talent and boxing ability P4P he should make less threads and watch more boxing.

I love Lara but he and Murray were roughly the same level at the time of the fight...Lara probably slightly ahead in my view...Cotto was not Cotto when Canelo fought him.

The way in which GGG dominated those fights was more impressive imo than Canelo going 12 rounds..especially with Cotto...I personally think GGG runs through that version of Cotto, but styles make fights.

[Boxing_1013]

Canelo at 28 has MORE titles won and moved up several times..why are we comparing a 28 year old who is oviously more accomplished then a 37 year old, it really is no contest..Canelo has beaten

Golovkin
cotto
lara
trout
jacobs

now the rest

kirkland
angulo
khan
chavez
mosley


what are these great wins 37 YEAR OLD GGG HAS?

The 'more titles' and 'moving up' etc argument to me is just not one I really care about tbh...I am just looking at who you faced, when/where/how you faced them, and what you did...and based on that I think GGG clearly has one of the best resumes out right now...and unlike Nelo and Pac he also has no clear blemishes...Pac has some great wins though...and at 28 though Nelo still has some time to catch GGG's resume and I do think they are fairly close already, but I would rate GGG above right now.

Even that list you stated -

I never saw him beat GGG...I saw him lose twice...Cotto was not Cotto when he beat him ya know...Lara was a nice win...Trout a good win...Jacobs too...but he went 12 round with all of those guys.

But when you get to the second group you listed, how can you really say those guys are above what GGG did, and GGG did it imo more impressively and to more guys, on that similar level:

Kirkland a nice KO...Kirkland was also KOed in 1 round by Ishida...who GGG KOed in 3 rounds...and Ishida went 12 rounds with Paul Williams and Pirog...Ishida is about GGG's 15th best win btw...Angulo a good finish...Khan Chavez Mosley...Shane was not SSM when they fought...

I mean come on, now we're reaching...especially if you are trying to really slight GGG's resume...I appreciate you listing a top 10 though...I just think when someone actually writes it down...it makes you realize that Canelo's is not really past GGG's at all.

For GGG
Canelo
Jacobs
Murray
Lemieux
Monroe
Brook
Geale
Stevens
Macklin
Ouma

The last 8 guys on that list GGG stopped all of them very nicely...hardly losing a round...and then he has about another 7 guys who were at a similar level...Ishida Proksa Rubio Rosado Adama Rolls Vanes...who he just completely rolled through as well...idk I just have never really understood the pushback against GGG's resume...doesn't really make a ton of sense to me when I look at it, especially compared to his peers' resumes...just my 2 cents.

[Boxing_1013]

Moving up doesn't automatically make a fighter a superstar. Do you think moving up to beat Fielding is a great achievement? Fighters move up for many reasons. For glory, for money because they can't make weight comfortably and to avoid other fighters. Canelo deserves credit for fighting Golovkin without a catchweight. The official results were skewed towards Cannelo the house fighter but he did get in the ring.

GGG does have a better than AJ. He was never KOed by a 20 to 1 underdog. You think AJ has a great resume.

Good posts...

This is such a bait thread. I will indulge OP anyways and say Golovkin wouldn't "beat" Cotto.
He'd kill him.

Buddy McGirt agrees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz5SltQixSQ

About 1 minute in

[Boxing_1013]

Now the most boring poster in the world has resorted to deflection. Carry this L for the Golovturds.

He does have a point...how do you hype up AJ's resume while slighting GGG's...almost like you have an agenda...

[Boxing_1013]

That makes no sense. Knowing how to score fights doesn't mean you can't show favouritism.

Thank you...you sum it up well...have been trying to explain that to him lol...I know he trolls though but I think he has a general problem with understanding some stuff too

[Robbie Barrett]

He does have a point...how do you hype up AJ's resume while slighting GGG's...almost like you have an agenda...

How do i hype up Joshua's resume? By stating facts?

I've said many time for years, todays HW's are **** and would get slaughtered during the 90s.

Tards like you think everyone thinks like your do, that if you're a fan you've got to **** ride a fighter and make ridiculous claims.

[Boxing_1013]

Golovkin built his career beating guys like Vanes. He looked as good as ever against the same level competition. Can't be making excuses when he looked exactly the same as he always did.

One could argue that Vanes was 2 years inactive and moving up in weight...I thought he looked OK out there though...just the moving up in weight hurt him...he couldn't compete physically with GGG.

But to call Vanes a scrub is wild...he was basically the same level as Andrade Jermell and Lara...and he showed that at 154...not some hypothetical matchup lol

[Boxing_1013]

How do i hype up Joshua's resume? By stating facts?

I've said many time for years, todays HW's are **** and would get slaughtered during the 90s.

Tards like you think everyone thinks like your do, that if you're a fan you've got to **** ride a fighter and make ridiculous claims.

Lol...you **** ride Joshua better than any girl I've ever met dude...don't try and act impartial now...get outta here lol.

AJ has like 5 'good' wins so far...and even in those he showed more vulnerability than GGG ever has in any of his fights...and GGG has been in with more good fighters, and better fighters...AJ has a couple other OK wins too against C level guys.

And he also got dropped and stopped by a Steve Rolls like underdog...so yeah anyone who is putting his resume above GGG's is just not living in reality right now imo.