Mike Coppinger: Ruiz vs AJ rematch clause (location)

[Jsmooth9876]

Well, if they can't agree on a venue then chances are they may lose the rematch clause by default; Like Tyson did to James Buster Douglas because those titles Andy are currently holding all have mandatory challengers.

So unless they can agree upon a venue, then Ruiz is free to defend those titles as often as he so wish. He just owes Joshua a rematch; Not the belts. Unless there is language in the contract clause stipulating this.

However, the final say is up to the sanctioning bodies.

Joshua executed the rematch clause which means Ruiz has to fight him next, not someone else. How long you been following boxing? You know how it works dude. Ruiz doesn't hold any power in the negotiation, he signed all that away to get the first fight.

He's in line for a massive payday in the rematch, he won't be losing out on that. The fight will be at MSG again and he will probbaly outbox the big guy again, then he holds all the cards, even over someone like Wilder.

[W1LL]

MSG makes most sense.

And from what I've read and heard/seen in interviews, I think the issue here is there is nothing stopping Andy Ruiz just walking away from the rematch all together. AJ and Hearn were banking on him seeing $$$$$ signs in the rematch and just doing as stipulated. But what happens if he says, "Nah it's okay I'll do my own thing?"

What will likely happen is a bunch of legal back and forth, but by the time the dust is settled we will be in 2021 or even later, and the alphabet titles will have been long scattered to the wind. They also likely cannot stop Ruiz going another route, for example taking fights on PBC. I am 100% certain that if this is the case, Haymon etc will have a few aces up their sleeve to get Ruiz out of the contract scot-free.

[juggernaut666]

Well, if they can't agree on a venue then chances are they may lose the rematch clause by default; Like Tyson did to James Buster Douglas because those titles Andy are currently holding all have mandatory challengers.

So unless they can agree upon a venue, then Ruiz is free to defend those titles as often as he so wish. He just owes Joshua a rematch; Not the belts. Unless there is language in the contract clause stipulating this.

Ruiz better make sure he wins them fights then bc hes going to lose more money then he made if Joshua takes legal action if he does not comply. So no once again you need to step out of fantasy land as M.Tyson did not have a rematch claus . The real reason was Don King took Buster to court to reverse the outcome bc of the long count position so it ended up Holyfield afterwards.


You guys can continue to look foolish on here but Ruiz will not be making decisions concerning the rematch unless Hearn lets him negotiate certain points.

[BangEM]

O h yea why ? Does he act tough then say no to fights he challenges you to bc hes unsure what the weight difference is all of a sudden along with outlandish re,tarded posts daily ( that could be anyone ) ? lol

The ugly fat slob and loser "Rexy" is some basement dwelling booty scratcher who has been bullied all his life and the internet is the last bastion for weirdos like him. I'll smash his face in, in person. I just can't stand the loser.

[juggernaut666]

Have you learned to punch a bag with correct form yet? Those itty bitty t-rex arms look real effective on you. The jab just slides up the bag. Have you replaced those chains you broke with incorrect punch technique?

****EM Well heres one at least. lol

[champion4ever]

Joshua executed the rematch clause which means Ruiz has to fight him next, not someone else. How long you been following boxing? You know how it works dude. Ruiz doesn't hold any power in the negotiation, he signed all that away to get the first fight.

He's in line for a massive payday in the rematch, he won't be losing out on that. The fight will be at MSG again and he will probbaly outbox the big guy again, then he holds all the cards, even over someone like Wilder.

Dude, Ruiz can't put his entire career on hold while Team Joshua makes up it's mind on whether they want to host this damn rematch or not.

If the WBA or the IBF calls in one of their mandatory defenses, then Ruiz will be forced to fight them or risk getting stripped of one or either both of those titles; Since he is the current titleholder. It's the same scenario playing out again as the Wilder/Joshua negotiations.

Since the two sides couldn't come to or a reach an agreement on that fight, the WBA called in one of their mandatory challenges of its title instead before the Joshua vs Wilder fight could ever be signed.

[Ray*]

Joshua executed the rematch clause which means Ruiz has to fight him next, not someone else. How long you been following boxing? You know how it works dude. Ruiz doesn't hold any power in the negotiation, he signed all that away to get the first fight.

He's in line for a massive payday in the rematch, he won't be losing out on that. The fight will be at MSG again and he will probbaly outbox the big guy again, then he holds all the cards, even over someone like Wilder.

A lot of these guys are dumb as a rock. No point in engaging them. Just read their post laugh and move on. They have never seen a boxing contract before in their lives, they need to go see one first. Then see a contract that a champion would have in case he loses his belt via voluntary challenge.

[Ray*]

MSG makes most sense.

And from what I've read and heard/seen in interviews, I think the issue here is there is nothing stopping Andy Ruiz just walking away from the rematch all together. AJ and Hearn were banking on him seeing $$$$$ signs in the rematch and just doing as stipulated. But what happens if he says, "Nah it's okay I'll do my own thing?"

What will likely happen is a bunch of legal back and forth, but by the time the dust is settled we will be in 2021 or even later, and the alphabet titles will have been long scattered to the wind. They also likely cannot stop Ruiz going another route, for example taking fights on PBC. I am 100% certain that if this is the case, Haymon etc will have a few aces up their sleeve to get Ruiz out of the contract scot-free.

Why are people trying to dream up scenarios? The fight happened six weeks ago, the rematch is due end of the year. They don’t need to negotiate anything or agree anything in July/August or September. What needed to be done first is to exercise the rematch clause... Which they have done. The rest would work itself out.

[champion4ever]

Ruiz better make sure he wins them fights then bc hes going to lose more money then he made if Joshua takes legal action if he does not comply. So no once again you need to step out of fantasy land as M.Tyson did not have a rematch claus . The real reason was Don King took Buster to court to reverse the outcome bc of the long count position so it ended up Holyfield afterwards.


You guys can continue to look foolish on here but Ruiz will not be making decisions concerning the rematch unless Hearn lets him negotiate certain points.

Let's say that the rematch is staged for March of next year. However, Both the IBF and the WBA have called in mandatory defenses of their titles for October of this year and January of next year before the rematch ever happens? Then what?

What do you expect Andy Ruiz to do? Do you expect him to get stripped of those titles or defend both the IBF and WBA titles of which he is the current titleholders of both belts until he rematches AJ?

He can always fight Anthony Joshua. However, until they can agree upon a venue the sanctioning bodies are not going to roll over and play dead for Matchroom Sport. They have many mandatory obligations to fulfill.

Therefore, If Andy waits and doesn't fight his mandatories, then chances are Anthony Joshua would be rematching a non-title less Andy Ruiz, Jr. If Matchroom Sport, Eddie Hearn and AJ aren't able to get their shit together.

[champion4ever]

MSG makes most sense.

And from what I've read and heard/seen in interviews, I think the issue here is there is nothing stopping Andy Ruiz just walking away from the rematch all together. AJ and Hearn were banking on him seeing $$$$$ signs in the rematch and just doing as stipulated. But what happens if he says, "Nah it's okay I'll do my own thing?"

What will likely happen is a bunch of legal back and forth, but by the time the dust is settled we will be in 2021 or even later, and the alphabet titles will have been long scattered to the wind. They also likely cannot stop Ruiz going another route, for example taking fights on PBC. I am 100% certain that if this is the case, Haymon etc will have a few aces up their sleeve to get Ruiz out of the contract scot-free.

We don't agree on much but you are spot on with this post. The sanctioning bodies are not going to wait around forever for Matchroom Sport and Eddie Hearn to make up their minds on whether or not or where they want this rematch to take place.

They are going to be calling in their mandatory challengers soon, if they can't come to a agreement. Then Joshua could be potentially re-matching a title-less Andy Ruiz, Jr if they decide to strip him of his titles unless he decides to defend them before they can agree to the rematch.