Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao vs. Keith Thurman and VADA

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  • Ca$ual Fan
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    #21
    Originally posted by James Hunt
    Tell that to Lance Armstrong, Big Baby...

    "When someone knocks your door", what to do? Maybe hide in the basement when somebody finally knocks your door, with phones turned off during the contaminated days, pretend you're not at home and pay a non-existent financial penalty.That's exactly what Charlos did.

    By your "logic", nobody would be breaking any laws cuz there's always a chance they might catch you. But we all know that's not the case. btw, love your naivety.
    Hahah, love your logic dude. See the bolded part? You really have to create any desperate situations just to sound correct for your own account. Ok dude you win this one.

    Btw, you didn't reply to the other poster's question about Manny being recently tested by VADA. Did Manny hide under Buboy's skirt when they came in a surprise visit to test him? He must have done the same as the Charlos but I guess it's hard to hide when your popular. **** it, I'd rather lose than have my entire legacy destroyed by completely getting caught even just once.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #22
      Originally posted by Bundt
      I know what’s happening. Manny or Thurman didn’t pay VADA a fee for this upcoming fight (even though he’s enrolled 247) and the VADA punks are paying “journalists” to put out ambiguous articles to ferment bad thoughts on these two fighters.
      Idk if they are paying them but they are using them

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      • Spartan King
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        #23
        Easy to put this on Pac

        In the article there's a sense, though not said but maybe implied, that it's Pacquiao asking to avoid VADA. I will give you a different theory, what if its THURMAN not wanting VADA? Lets look at this closer. Thurman has come off a 22 month layoff due to injuries in his elbow, which required surgery, and injuries to his hand. Additionally, it has been reported on Thurman's reluctance to jog for conditioning during this training camp, instead he has been cycling on a bike. Why the change? Well, fighters that use other forms off "road work" usually do so because the primary form can cause them pain or exacerbate an injury. Sergio Maravilla Martinez did not jog for fights, but he would cycle because he had knee issues and the impact of jogging would further deteriorate his joints. During close inspection during recent training videos you would notice Thurman wearing two knee braces. Maybe much ado bout nothing but the old saying "where there's smoke, there's fire" may apply here if we take all the clues into context. So with injury comes medication, and medication could be something that might be a banned substance in the VADA/WADA world. Sure, a fighter could apply for an exempt use for medical reasons but if the goal is a speedy recovery then maybe something outside of what a doctor could prescribe or something that would trigger a positive test with VADA is what's needed to get the fighter healed. So although many allegations were put forward in the past, primarily by Mayweather and crew, of possible PED usage or even invincibility drugs that "make bullets bounce off yo ass" against Manny Pacquiao we may be looking at a case where the blame for the lack of VADA testing may be placed on the wrong fighter and most unsuspecting fans will gladly buy it. Manny has played the patsy for a while now, one more time isn't going to hurt. It sure would be interesting to know if Thurman was VADA tested for the Josesito Lopez fight just like Pacquiao was tested for the Broner fight. I dont have the answer....yet.
        Last edited by Spartan King; 07-08-2019, 07:55 AM.

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        • Kali_KO
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          #24
          Looks like the author referring to Canelo only getting 6 month suspension after testing positive twice for Clenbuterol. GGG insisted on early testing three months out and caught him in Mexico where he had never been tested before with VADA. VADA definitely the best results of getting positive tests, no surprise they didn’t want to risk this fight not happening by using VADA, but camps seem happy about it

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          • richardt
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            #25
            Originally posted by cjeagle1
            James Hunt

            VADA just posted an announcement on their website that Manny Pacquaio was just tested last week, his 4th under the VADA 24/7 CBP program.

            I would have posted the site but boxingscene won't allow me to post urls until I have made 15 posts apparently.

            This is what it said:

            "Congratulations to Manny Pacquiao for successfully completing VADA for the 4th time."

            BTW I wasn't calling him Senator. That was a direct quote from his manager Sean Gibbons from the article that I copy pasted.

            The WBA also announced that they contracted with PEDTO to do a VADA style random drug test for both fighters that is different from the VADA test Manny just took .
            I read that too on the VADA web site about Pac being tested. I was hoping they would show a date on their web site for the latest testing so I went to send a message and their online form is down. But you are right as from another post that if VADA even tests rarely, since there is no way to tell when they will show up, Pac and his team are not taking that risk, and that is assuming Pac would even want to take PED's which has never been shown, and on top of that, Pac is also confirmed as having true random testing from the the NSAC as well for this fight.
            Last edited by richardt; 07-08-2019, 11:15 AM.

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            • Terrell1555
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              #26
              Holy Shyt a writer that is welling to challenge and say something real pertaining to Manny Pacquiao! I have never seen a fighter get the soft gloves treatment Pac gets! He gets softball question and more media passes than one could ever hope for. From the time he walked away from the Mayweather fight over Blood and urine test, to saying he heeled his shoulder by swimming in the ocean, Manny gets the cashmere glove treatment! Don’t get me wrong he’s a great fighter but shyt about him is highly suspect and su****ious!

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              • radiotracer
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                #27
                PAC will always frustrate people because he has never positive and will never test positive. So all they can do is imply and tarnish his reputation. The day that PAC needs to cheat is the day he retires. I don’t think it’s in his character to cheat or bad mouth anyone. Some people will disagree with this but please keep digging for that positive test. Until then your argument has no substance.

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                • gritsteel
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                  #28
                  Fake News, ban the writer from writing for 1 year ...

                  VADA website has the Pacman in it as tested. Problem now is Thurman, untested. Dangerous fight for the Pacman.

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                  • Truth Serum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bda31175
                    NADA is the preferred randomized testing program for this bout.
                    Agreed! Vada is just a pain in the arse and if you fail consecutive tests with them you get a harsh 6 month suspension in which you cannot test anymore until the suspension is over.

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                    • Tatabanya
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                      #30
                      I'm more and more convinced that this fight will be a stinker.

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