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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    You can't say it's irrelevant and then blame Canelo for it.

    That's not how logic works.
    So by your logic it's ok to do anything you like, as long as you didn't come up with the idea yourself?

    If somebody uses a gun to commit a crime, would they get off the hook by telling the judge they didn't invent guns, or the idea of using them to rob people?

    Logic only works for people who are capable of thinking logically, which clearly rules you out.

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    • factsarenice
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      #32
      Andrade is dangerous and Canelo vs Charlo is not simple. All this leads back to GGG III.

      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Sulaiman invented this whole franchise belt thing.

      Not Canelo.
      The problem...The WBC realized they would lose credibility if they didn't make Charlo the mandatory. On the other hand Canelo is signed to a network and even though Charlo isn't obligated to a network, Haymon is, and Al isn't likley going to let Charlo fight on DAZN, ESPN or anywhere else. The different network alliances had to put the WBC in a bind. As I see it, the only choices open to Sulaman would be strip Canelo and lose millions while alienating the biggest name in boxing and risk Canelo coming out and trashing the WBC...and he would, and in Mexico Canelo can do political damage. OR let Canelo keep his belt and contractual agreement with DAZN, give Charlo a token belt and let Haymon keep his premium fighter within the PBC control, Showtime and let him deal with Charlo.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 07-04-2019, 10:54 AM.

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      • kafkod
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        #33
        Originally posted by icha
        so you think canelo is scared of charlo ?
        I don't know. Only Canelo fans can read Canelo's mind.
        Last edited by kafkod; 07-04-2019, 10:29 AM.

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        • Shadoww702
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          #34
          If Canelo fights Andrade he’s ducking
          Charlo
          GGg
          Smith
          Kov

          If he chooses Charlo he’s ducking
          Andrade
          Smith
          GGG
          Kov.

          If he picks GGG he’s ducking
          Andrade
          Smith
          Charlo
          Kov.

          If he chooses Smith he’s ducking
          Andrade
          Charlo
          GGg
          Kov.

          Then finally if it’s Kov. He’s ducking
          Andrade
          Charlo
          GGG
          Smith

          Do I got that about right??? SMH...

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            #35
            Originally posted by icha
            so you think canelo is scared of charlo ?
            I thinks he scurred of ALL the ones he doesn’t pick

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            • factsarenice
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              #36
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Who came up with the idea is irrelevant.

              Canelo didn't want to fight Charlo and this is the WBC's way of giving him what he wants and staying sweet with Haymon at the same time.
              That statement just about coves it. Sulaman cares more about the WBC 's relevance (money) than a fighter's claim, right or wrong. Haymon cares about keeping his best fighters away from DAZAN and Canelo has his choice of top fighters and doesn't need the belt to get fights.

              I might be the only one but I don't think afraid has anything to do with it. Haymon, Charlo and Showtime are an inconvenience Oscar isn't willing to even consider and Sulaman knows it.

              I wouldn't be at all supersized if a Wilder franchise belt was part of the deal in return but that's pure speculation
              Last edited by factsarenice; 07-04-2019, 10:47 AM.

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              • Drew Bundini Br
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                #37
                Originally posted by James Hunt
                Canelo fought GGG and Jacobs but is scared of Charlo?! GTFOH
                If anything, WBC gave Charlo some fake belt so he can parade around like it's the real one and at the same time pretend he wants Canelo...
                Haymon would never allow Charlo to fight anyone on DAZN even if Charlo really wanted unless you expect Canelo to go on PBC network to fight Charlo which would be idiotic.
                They just created some special belt so CANELO could avoid fighting CHARLO.

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                • factsarenice
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
                  They just created some special belt so CANELO could avoid fighting CHARLO.
                  The WBC realized they would lose credibility if they didn't make Charlo the mandatory. On the other hand Canelo is signed to a network and even though Charlo isn't obligated to a network, Haymon is, and Al isn't likley going to let Charlo fight on DAZN, ESPN or anywhere else. The different network alliances had to put the WBC in a bind. As I see it, the only choices open to Sulaman would be strip Canelo and lose millions while alienating the biggest name in boxing and risk Canelo coming out and trashing the WBC...and he would, and in Mexico Canelo can do political damage. OR let Canelo keep his belt and contractual agreement with DAZN, give Charlo a token belt and let Haymon keep his premium fighter within the PBC control, Showtime and let him deal with Charlo.
                  Last edited by factsarenice; 07-04-2019, 10:53 AM.

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                  • Drew Bundini Br
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    Beating Kovalev for a title @ 175 would be a big deal, but beating Andrade to become the Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World is a bigger deal! Canelo vs. Andrade! Make It Happen!
                    KOV is very beatable. CANELO k NJ ow he is quicker and much better boxer. ANDRADE and CHARLO will be ducked forever.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by factsarenice
                      The WBC realized they would lose credibility if they didn't make Charlo the mandatory. On the other hand Canelo is signed to a network. Even though Charlo isn't obligated to a network Haymon is, and he's not about to let Charlo fight on DAZN, ESPN or anywhere else. This put the network alliances put the WBC in a bind. The only choices open to Sulaman would be strip Canelo and lose millions while alienating the biggest name in boxing and risk Canelo coming out and trashing the WBC...and he would, and in Mexico Canelo can do political damage. OR let Canelo keep his belt and contractual agreement with DAZN, give Charlo a token belt and let Haymon keep his premium fighter within the PBC control, Showtime and let him deal with Charlo.
                      CANELO signed to a network to make some$$ and avoid. The fight can still be made with network cooperation. Don't look for it though.

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