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  • sportbuddha
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    #31
    Originally posted by Brettcappe
    Haymon does try and protect his fighters and at times that could be a good thing. The problem lies when the best fights are not being made, the fans suffer. This is not all on PBC. These promoters need to work together and stage the best, most competitive shows. Personally I find nothing wrong with a card loaded with prospects. I have tickets for the 7/13 Newark N.J card featuring Shakur Stevenson and I am looking forward to it. Hopefully the rest of this year and early next we will see some great matchups. They are out there, they just need to be made. Spence/Crawford anyone?
    It’s worse than protect his fighters, he manipulates the game and ensures his guys just keep cashing him checks as long as possible. He does not care at all about boxing and boxing fans, nor does he particularly care about the boxers, some of which end up sat idle for over a year, yeah he just pays them, but how long will that last once they get ring rusty then take a loss on their return. The guy is a genius...at making money.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by James Hunt
      You think those people would be doing him any favors if he was super duper nice to them? It's not dating, it's business.
      I'm not even talking about that. Obviously your competition isn't looking out for you. That is what is it & outta Eddie's hands.

      What I am saying is Eddie isn't doing HIMSELF any favors with how he conducts himself with the gossipy, snarkiness & sh^t talking people he ultimately wishes he could do business with. That breeds more contention & drifting away from wanting to do business with you. If you want & need to work with more people you don't operate like this.

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      • Alan Smithee
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        #33
        Originally posted by sportbuddha
        It’s worse than protect his fighters, he manipulates the game and ensures his guys just keep cashing him checks as long as possible. He does not care at all about boxing and boxing fans, nor does he particularly care about the boxers, some of which end up sat idle for over a year, yeah he just pays them, but how long will that last once they get ring rusty then take a loss on their return. The guy is a genius...at making money.
        A little harsh but some good points. It's a great business model to take the least amount of risk and make the most money but this is boxing not a fortune 500 company. I was at a race track last night and one of the winning drivers said " without the fans we would not have the sport". Well said indeed!

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        • thack
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          #34
          They make Bob and Don look like saints .....

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          • Chrismart
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            #35
            Oscar has a little twitter cry every once and awhile. No biggy.

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            • DeeMoney
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              #36
              When promoters have their little spats like this I start to think how much better it would be if boxing had a unified governing body. You'd get far more big fights happening and less protecting individual fighters. Less marination, and waiting for fights. And probably less questionable scorecards that favor hometown fighters.

              Problem is, as we all know, is the powers that be are the ones that benefit from this-PBC, GBP, Top Rank, etc. What do you all think it would take for a relatively benevolent organization to unify boxing and clean it up? Will we see it in our lifetimes?

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              • saintpat
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                #37
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Nothing nationalistic about it. Matchroom cards have been generally better than PBCs this year, but fans of PBC want to attack Matchroom.
                But Marchroom is asking me to pay a subscriber fee.

                PBC is not.

                The dazn model was PPV fights without the PPV price. But they’re putting on cut-rate B-side vs C-side and A-side vs D-side crap. No thanks.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by saintpat
                  But Marchroom is asking me to pay a subscriber fee.

                  PBC is not.

                  The dazn model was PPV fights without the PPV price. But they’re putting on cut-rate B-side vs C-side and A-side vs D-side crap. No thanks.
                  So Showtime and Fox Sports aren't subscription services? Funny i thought they were.
                  Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 06-30-2019, 06:35 PM.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brettcappe
                    A little harsh but some good points. It's a great business model to take the least amount of risk and make the most money but this is boxing not a fortune 500 company. I was at a race track last night and one of the winning drivers said " without the fans we would not have the sport". Well said indeed!
                    Originally posted by sportbuddha
                    It’s worse than protect his fighters, he manipulates the game and ensures his guys just keep cashing him checks as long as possible. He does not care at all about boxing and boxing fans, nor does he particularly care about the boxers, some of which end up sat idle for over a year, yeah he just pays them, but how long will that last once they get ring rusty then take a loss on their return. The guy is a genius...at making money.
                    Not understanding the broad generalization wrt Haymon and PBC. Seems that over the last 3 years PBC has given the fans more competitive fights than any other outfit. Did Haymon protect Mickey, Mell Charlo, Hurd, Porter, Pacman, Thurman? Did he protect Ruiz from Joshua? Haymon doesn't care about boxing or boxing fans yet he gives fans free boxing and puts more money in the fighters pockets wear it belongs.

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                      #40
                      Eddie talking down to Oscar like he's a child.

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