Comments Thread For: Whyte: Wilder Loves Easy, Inactive Fighters as His Mandatories!

[Cool Scant]

Whyte complaining about Stiverne and Breazeale getting title shots. But at least they did what he refuses to do: fight in a final eliminator!!

[Oldskoolg]

Another false statement from a whyte fan. This is very common. So according to the liar who supports whyte, wilder fought Ortiz and Fury for less money than he was offered to fight whyte. Let's disect this. Wilder was offered if I remember correctly 5m and 7m by hearn to fight whyte. These offers were prior to hearn joining dazn and much prior to wilder even signing to face Ortiz.

So 1st question here is was the 5m and 7m the biggest $ offers wilder had thrown at him at the time? Answer is no. Why? As I said/explained in my earlier post,the whyte fight discussion didn't start until the end of the failed joshua negotiations. Big reason wilder Joshua negotiations failed is because of the initial flat fee offers being made towards wilder. Even those disrespectful flat fee offers were higher than the offers made for a whyte fight.

I wasn't going to add this in, but remember even after the disrespect and lowballing offers, wilder at one point said he'd accept the whyte fight in whytes hometown in the UK as long as wilder had a Joshua gurantee in the contract. Just to point that out.....

But to continue, whytes initial offer was less than wilders offer for Joshua. But you sir said wilder fought Ortiz and Fury for less money combined than he would've got Vs whyte.

LMFAO. Wilder is the 3rd highest paid boxer in the world. Whyte is less known than Ortiz and Fury. Now Ill give you this. Wilder Ortiz 1 wasn't Ppv and wilders gurantee for that fight was between 2.5 and 4mil but all pbc fighters get paid more than what they say. And the ortiz fight was actually wilders 1st fight under his own promotinal company called bomb squad promotions so wilder got alot more than even I can guess. The fury fight earned wilder between 17-24million$

You’re arguing with Eddie Hearn British nationalists....they are zealots who only started watching boxing because of Eddie Hearn....nothing you say will sink in to those hard headed jokers

[Oldskoolg]

The main reason Whyte or Joshua fights haven't happened as voluntary is Eddie Hearn. The guy is too arrogant with his ways. He thinks only his fighters deserve all the money and doesn't treat other people with respect or offer them a fair share. Eddie wants to offer people based on their last pay alone not a fair share of the money in the pot for the current fight.

Look at Joshua - Ruiz fight. Joshua takes about 80-20 split from the prize money since he's the champ and it is voluntary. Will Eddie offer Wilder an 80-20 split against Whyte as a voluntary? Tell me when that happens and Wilder refuses even if it is 75-25.

That's the reason Wilder advised Whyte to sign up with Haymon for a 2-3 fight deal because then it would be easy. Particularly, since Whyte ain't tied to Hearn and can do so. Given the history of what has happened during AJ fight negotiations, I doubt Wilder or his team will be enthusiastic about dealing with Hearn again. No wonder Skipper had to step in for unification fight negotiations during the Ruiz fight.

Exactly....if the Hearn peanut gallery demands wilder signs with dazn in order to fight Joshua otherwise he’s “ducking” then Whyte should be expected to sign with haymon and fight on PBC otherwise he’s ducking.....it’s only fair. Yes? Good idea? Or are you hearn freaks just a bunch of obsessed bullshyt artists?

[ImperialWrath]

Im not even a big Whyte fan and i would expect Wilder to be a big favourite against him should the WBC ever be graceful enough to make that fight.

Whyte v Ortiz. Whyte offered Ortiz the chance to headline a PPV. Ortiz didnt want that he wanted to stay in America and fight for alot less money on an undercard.

Whyte v Fury. Fury backed out.

Whyte v Breazeale. Breazeale backed out.

Yet all this time Whyte has been the number 1 challenger and Breazeale has got the Wilder fight. Ortiz is next and Fury is next after that. If that isnt the WBC screwing Dillian Whyte i dont know what is.

People keep talking about all the hoops the WBC are trying to make Dillian Whyte jump through yet when it was a different division they just gave a world title to Jermall Charlo without him even having to fight for it. Where was his hoops? Thats like the complete opposite of what they are doing with Dillian Whyte.

How many mandatory fights has Deontay Wilder had in his 5 years as a champion? The answer should be 5. But i think its 2 and it looks like its going to be another year or 2 before the next one is called.

No wonder Whyte, Hearn and Whyte fans are pissed off.

For someone who claims to not be that big of a Whyte fan, you certainly are hellbent on caping for him. Especially considering you appear to not know much of which you're talking about. For example:

Whyte vs Ortiz - false, Wilder told Whyte in October of last year that he would give him a voluntary shot if Whyte beat Ortiz. Whyte LIED, saying that Ortiz refused to fight him. Ortiz heard this, and came out publicly to challenge Whyte for a fight here in the US. Whyte REFUSED, and instead offered to fight Ortiz in late December at the O2. Ortiz ACCEPTED that offer, and Whyte then BACKED OUT. This was documented here on BoxingScene.

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-accepts-dillian-whyte-fight-december-22-uk--132573

Whyte vs Fury - I didn't mention that AT ALL. Let's actually stick to the topic. But fine, I'll give you this one, what does that have to do with the IBF mandatory vs Pulev? Or him turning down a rematch with AJ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/dillian-whyte-vs-kubrat-pulev-anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-ibf-a8286011.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/8797126/dillian-whyte-anthony-joshua-rematch-4m-tyson-fury-15m/

Whyte vs Breazeale - Again, this is false. Breazeale openly challenged Whyte to a fight, after Whyte once again shot his mouth off about another fighter (this time Breazeale). Whyte, once again, went silent and instead to chose to fight someone else.

https://www.givemesport.com/1378796-dominic-breazeale-calls-out-dillian-whyte-for-a-future-fight

Again, I can provide proof to back up my argument. Whyte has had opportunity after opportunity to earn himself a title shot, but HE'S the one who keeps turning them down, and then blames Wilder and the WBC for "making him jump through hoops". As for Charlo, that's the WBC's fault for protecting Canelo and preventing Charlo from a shot at winning the WBC belt from Canelo. However, the Charlo situation has NOTHING to do with Whyte's situation.

Lastly, it's the sanctioning bodies' rule that a champion has 2 years before they have to face their mandatory challenger. Wilder has fought 2x mandatory challengers, whether you think that those guys deserved to be mandatory or not (I personally didn't think Stiverne deserved it). That's 2x mandatory obligations fulfilled in 4 years, so Wilder is not at fault here.

Again, please EXPLAIN how anyone other than Whyte is to blame for him not getting a title shot?

[sidefx996]

I wish these guys would fight already so Wilder can put him to sleep and shut him up. Whyte acts like he has some holier than thou resume. Since Joshua KO'd him, I'm certain more people HAVEN'T heard of the majority of guys he's fought than have.

[Arma316]

If the likes of Stiverne and Brazeale can get a title shot, I don’t see why Whyte cannot. Certainly his credentials are better than their’s.

Wilder should be able to beat him, from where I stand. But somebody on that team doesn’t wanna make that fight, it seems.

[Yodpayak]

Its annoying that people make this a Wilder vs Eddie Hearn thing. The best way to make this fight happen is if Whyte signs with PBC, which he probably would have done already if Joshua didnt get KO'd by a fat guy.

[nghtmr111]

Ok, let's just go with the assumption that I'm a "Wilder fangirl" who is scared to see him fight Whyte. How is any of what I said bollocks? What part of it was NOT true? Because I can provide PROOF of everything I said.

Just because you want to continue to kiss Whyte's ass doesn't mean the rest of us have to ignore the facts.

'Fan girls' usually want to respond without using proof/facts for a civil debate. Ususlly they respond with childish insults and accuse others of heing fan girls....

[ShoulderRoll]

Shyte has been ordered to fight a final eliminator twice already. He keeps refusing.

So he knows what he has to do to get a title fight. He is just too scared to do it.

[Roronoazoro]

Let alone, look at the irony of the situation. Whyte refused to face Ortiz twice in 2018 and there wasn't any campaigns for Ortiz to get a shot. Now that fury rejected the whyte fight, whyte is literally in the same shoes as the Cuban he refused to face last year. ONLy difference is Ortiz isn't a hoe ass ***** crying every other day.

You sheep keep on repeating "600 days" and counting. Well inform us how many days it's been since wbc president ordered whyte Vs Ortiz? Then when you get that number, tell me how many opponents not named Ortiz whyte has fought since having Ortiz called as his eliminator.