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  • DaNeutral.
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    #21
    Originally posted by Roronoazoro
    You guys are literally lying on here. Whyte has a December 21 2018 fight date no opponent. Ortiz said whyte should face him in LA on wilder fury undercard(in hindsight Ortiz was right and whyte should if left his domestic bubble) and whyte said "no Ortiz. How about you get off of the LA card and come face me in the UK and make it a big event". Whyte said this to Ortiz thinking "yeah right, there's no way he can get off of the LA card" and whytes bluff was called out less than 18hrs later after Ortiz and his team came out IMMEDIATELY. I REPEAR IMMEDIATELY and accepted whytes challenge to face whyte in whytes home country infront of a pro-whyte crowd. Then in a shocking turn of events, whyte went silent after Ortiz responded. And after a week or so of silence, the next thing we heard about whyte is that he's taking on the 7loss having chrisora who whyte already barely beat due to chrisora being suspended regardless of the fight outcome.

    Now here's what I challenge you UK/whyte/matchroom fans to do. I just layed out the facts of what transpired. If IM lying, post a link to article or reference that shows whyte pressing for the Ortiz eliminator between the dates of 3/3/2018 and 12/15/2018
    Why dont you prove what you just said 1st and then we will tear it down? Youve just posted your own words as solid facts then asked us to provide proof you are wrong. Well you havnt provided any proof that your words are not lies.

    When did Ortiz say "Fine i will fight you in the UK on a headline bill of a PPV"? That was the offer.

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    • Roronoazoro
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      #22
      Originally posted by Throwingbombs
      As a neutral, I definately would not make Wilder a big favourite in that fight and could very much see an upset. Which also explains Wilders extreme reluctance to take the fight and We Be Crooks refusal to enforce it.
      How about this. Explain to everyone posting here whytes strengths as a boxer. Not compared to wilder, just tell us what makes whyte such a "dynamic" force too you. Im VERY VERY interested in your response.

      What I've found is that the majority of people who claim whyte can beat wilder don't like answering this question. Why is that?

      Look, if you guys feel whyte has 1 of the best "jabs" or the best "footwork" in the division, don't be scared to say/express that infront of the fellow boxingscene community. Now most of us on boxingscene will laugh hysterically at such statements but don't let that stop you from saying what it is.

      So with all that being said, please whyte supporters inform us on whytes biggest skills and tools that present a nightmare for the 41-0-40ko 20 1st rd ko champion going for his 10th consecutive title defense.

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      • Roronoazoro
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        #23
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Why dont you prove what you just said 1st and then we will tear it down? Youve just posted your own words as solid facts then asked us to provide proof you are wrong. Well you havnt provided any proof that your words are not lies.

        When did Ortiz say "Fine i will fight you in the UK on a headline bill of a PPV"? That was the offer.
        Fearsome heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz has accepted Dillian Whyte’s challenge for a December 22 fight at the O2 Arena in London. The ruthless, 39-year-old Cuban, who has only lost once in his ca…


        Last week top heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz responded to comments that were made by his rival Dillian Whyte to Sky. “I offered to fight Ortiz years ago, but he didn’t want to know. He didn’t even want to know this summer and asked for silly money coming off his knockout loss to Wilder, and made it clear that he wouldn’t be ready for July 28, which was the date we had available,” said Whyte.


        Here's the proof. And as far as you saying I posted my own words lol, the term is called paraphrasing. I didn't believe in your capabilities of comprehension so figured I'd say/type it in a way that even you should understand.

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        • DARTH SILKWORMS
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          #24
          I don't understand how Wilder can be "avoiding" Whyte when Whyte isn't the mandatory and has never been the mandatory. Wilder just fought his mandatory a month ago.

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          • hugh grant
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            #25
            Wilder needs to give whyt e a fight. White mentions wilder name, wilder doesnt return favour?
            I'd like to see it

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #26
              Originally posted by Roronoazoro
              https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...lian-whye/amp/

              Last week top heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz responded to comments that were made by his rival Dillian Whyte to Sky. “I offered to fight Ortiz years ago, but he didn’t want to know. He didn’t even want to know this summer and asked for silly money coming off his knockout loss to Wilder, and made it clear that he wouldn’t be ready for July 28, which was the date we had available,” said Whyte.


              Here's the proof. And as far as you saying I posted my own words lol, the term is called paraphrasing. I didn't believe in your capabilities of comprehension so figured I'd say/type it in a way that even you should understand.
              Thats your proof? Ortiz said "send the contract". Did they not? But then we see what happens when Hearn sends a contract to team Ortiz. They lie about it.

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              • Corbett
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                #27
                Originally posted by Roronoazoro
                Anyone who doesn't understand the context of the wilder whyte text Convo is exposing themselves as casuals. After bull****ting for 4-6 months during failed Joshua negotiations, wilder put his foot down and said he's done trying to deal with hearn. Subsequently(within 1-6 days following failed negotiations) dillian whyte contacts wilder about a fight between the two of them and wilder told whyte essentially "your bs promoter just wasted my time so unless your willing to sign to pbc(wheather it be a 1 fight deal or multiple fight deal) wilder wouldn't do whyte the favor of giving him a voluntary after the man who represents whyte played games as well as publicly ridiculed wilder for months beforehand.

                You offer wilder flat fees for a superfight then expect to turn around and have serious discussions about wilder granting whyte a title shot?

                People's insight into the whyte wilder situation shows wheather their casuals or not. A casual wouldnt know or would be too dumb to remember that Hearn and whyte tried to begin their wilder negotiations immediately after lowballing, blackballing, and disrespecting wilder. Remind you, same as today in 2019, whyte wasn't mandatory for wilder back then so they're(hearn whyte) essentially asking for wilder to do them a favor and to personally select them as his next opponent.

                Alot of you guys are dense to believe in the spew that comes outta easy fight whytes mouth. Last thing I'll say is, imagine how/what a matchroom voicemail to wilder about making the whyte fight would sound like? "hey wilder, this is hearn. I haven't heard back from you since we wasted 5months of your life/career but I was wondering if you could do me and the UK(same UK always disrespecting wilder) a favor and re-enter fight negotiations with my company which just previously low-balled you and your entire team for the last 6month?

                The facts are Wilder has avoided the number 1 ranked Whyte for over 600 days while fighting as voluntarys Ortiz and Fury and for less money combined that he was offered to fight Whyte.

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                • Richardcranium
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                  #28
                  Whyte loves being an insignificant boxer

                  That is only good at running his mouth. Whyte lost to that bum Joshua. He doesn't even deserve a shot at a participation trophy.

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                  • Corbett
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Roronoazoro
                    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...lian-whye/amp/

                    Last week top heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz responded to comments that were made by his rival Dillian Whyte to Sky. “I offered to fight Ortiz years ago, but he didn’t want to know. He didn’t even want to know this summer and asked for silly money coming off his knockout loss to Wilder, and made it clear that he wouldn’t be ready for July 28, which was the date we had available,” said Whyte.


                    Here's the proof. And as far as you saying I posted my own words lol, the term is called paraphrasing. I didn't believe in your capabilities of comprehension so figured I'd say/type it in a way that even you should understand.

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                    • Roronoazoro
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Corbett
                      The facts are Wilder has avoided the number 1 ranked Whyte for over 600 days while fighting as voluntarys Ortiz and Fury and for less money combined that he was offered to fight Whyte.
                      Another false statement from a whyte fan. This is very common. So according to the liar who supports whyte, wilder fought Ortiz and Fury for less money than he was offered to fight whyte. Let's disect this. Wilder was offered if I remember correctly 5m and 7m by hearn to fight whyte. These offers were prior to hearn joining dazn and much prior to wilder even signing to face Ortiz.

                      So 1st question here is was the 5m and 7m the biggest $ offers wilder had thrown at him at the time? Answer is no. Why? As I said/explained in my earlier post,the whyte fight discussion didn't start until the end of the failed joshua negotiations. Big reason wilder Joshua negotiations failed is because of the initial flat fee offers being made towards wilder. Even those disrespectful flat fee offers were higher than the offers made for a whyte fight.

                      I wasn't going to add this in, but remember even after the disrespect and lowballing offers, wilder at one point said he'd accept the whyte fight in whytes hometown in the UK as long as wilder had a Joshua gurantee in the contract. Just to point that out.....

                      But to continue, whytes initial offer was less than wilders offer for Joshua. But you sir said wilder fought Ortiz and Fury for less money combined than he would've got Vs whyte.

                      LMFAO. Wilder is the 3rd highest paid boxer in the world. Whyte is less known than Ortiz and Fury. Now Ill give you this. Wilder Ortiz 1 wasn't Ppv and wilders gurantee for that fight was between 2.5 and 4mil but all pbc fighters get paid more than what they say. And the ortiz fight was actually wilders 1st fight under his own promotinal company called bomb squad promotions so wilder got alot more than even I can guess. The fury fight earned wilder between 17-24million$

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