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Originally posted by turnedup View PostIsn't Pacquiao already enrolled in 365 random testing?
Don't think taking an L to a fighter makes it impossible to eclipse him on a legacy scale but again legacy is subjective as are the top fighters all time lists which neither of these two crack the top 5 on for me.
Is he or is he not in 365 random testing? Seems he is in one thread and he isn't in the other. Gotta say though..Errol didn't look great against Garcia with testing..just saying.
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Originally posted by Theosis26 View PostRoach doesn't make decisions for pac so this is all fluff. Pac might not want a Spence fight & no one can force him to take it, although I'd definitely like to see it
Pac already said he is willing to face Porter-Spence winner in December: https://********/y42bUm0XchE
I think he wants to win Fighter of the Decade again
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Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Postyes!! vada testing so spence will look normal too! lmao!!! im all for this.
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Originally posted by markther View PostYou know that’s not the point I was making. The entire boxing public knows Floyd worked his era financially like a damn scientist and magician. Much respect to Floyd and his team for how he calculated and maneuvered and created a persona to bank heist boxing. But he needed to win those fights also and he did. People lose sight of that. It wouldn’t have been possible if he didn’t keep winning and people hoping he would lose-LOL! Clever game plan, executed to perfection financially.
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Originally posted by markther View PostYour entitled to your opinion and other boxing fans are of the same mindset. And I agree with you. Some people may think otherwise if Manny beats some young lions in the division today. That’s my point.
We can't just make younger equate to better. Which, going back to my original post, is why if a Richard Hamilton or Jerry Stackhouse gets the better of Jordan when he was on the Wizards, it doesn't affect his legacy.
Now if Manny beats Crawford and Spence, 2 top 5 p4p fighters, then I think it fair to look at those wins like you do a Duran over Davey Moore or a Barrera over Hamed.
But he still wouldn't pass Floyd, the same way LeBron winning a couple titles late in his career will not elevate him past Jordan.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostErrol is enrolled in VADA so he will look the same as he always does. Without VADA/USADA testing, Manny gtes KO wins (Matthysse) with the VADA/USAD testing he gets 12 rd UD's (Broner).
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostTrue indeed! Clever game plan both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the ring! Castillo, Corrales, Judah, De La Hoya, Mosely, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, and richest prize fighter of all time! Much respect!
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostI think this has always been the plan for PBC. Let Manny/Keith fight without VADA so Manny wins. Then Spence and Porter unify. Manny can't fight for the WBC belt without enrolling in the Clean Boxing Program so then he will be back to normal (how he looked against Floyd) when he fights Spence.
That isn't enough for Spence to be a star. he will need to beat Crawford or Floyd after Manny to really break out.
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