Comments Thread For: Roach: If Pacquiao Is Offered Spence, We Won't Turn It Down

[markther]

Floyd fighting them is like Jordan playing on the Wizards-it doesn't change his legacy in any way nor does it allow inferior fighters to pass him if they fight higher quality guys.

Floyd fighting Conor and the Japanese guy were the reward for an undefeated career selling more PPV's than any other boxer, same way Jordan playing on the Wizards was an opportunity to make huge money and be part owner as a reward for what he did for the NBA.

Your entitled to your opinion and other boxing fans are of the same mindset. And I agree with you. Some people may think otherwise if Manny beats some young lions in the division today. That’s my point.

[The Big Dunn]

Isn't Pacquiao already enrolled in 365 random testing?



Don't think taking an L to a fighter makes it impossible to eclipse him on a legacy scale but again legacy is subjective as are the top fighters all time lists which neither of these two crack the top 5 on for me.




Is he or is he not in 365 random testing? Seems he is in one thread and he isn't in the other. Gotta say though..Errol didn't look great against Garcia with testing..just saying.

NO he is not, at least from what I can tell. I address it in Spoon's thread.

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Roach doesn't make decisions for pac so this is all fluff. Pac might not want a Spence fight & no one can force him to take it, although I'd definitely like to see it

Pac already said he is willing to face Porter-Spence winner in December: https://********/y42bUm0XchE

I think he wants to win Fighter of the Decade again

[The Big Dunn]

yes!! vada testing so spence will look normal too! lmao!!! im all for this.

Errol is enrolled in VADA so he will look the same as he always does. Without VADA/USADA testing, Manny gtes KO wins (Matthysse) with the VADA/USAD testing he gets 12 rd UD's (Broner).

[Pac=Duran]

if this fight happens, i hope spence will at least demand for random blood testing because we all know manny is not gonna ask for it right......

Lol check Earls gyno u tard. Every pro boxer is juicing

[Bronx2245]

You know that’s not the point I was making. The entire boxing public knows Floyd worked his era financially like a damn scientist and magician. Much respect to Floyd and his team for how he calculated and maneuvered and created a persona to bank heist boxing. But he needed to win those fights also and he did. People lose sight of that. It wouldn’t have been possible if he didn’t keep winning and people hoping he would lose-LOL! Clever game plan, executed to perfection financially.

True indeed! Clever game plan both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the ring! Castillo, Corrales, Judah, De La Hoya, Mosely, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, and richest prize fighter of all time! Much respect!

[The Big Dunn]

Your entitled to your opinion and other boxing fans are of the same mindset. And I agree with you. Some people may think otherwise if Manny beats some young lions in the division today. That’s my point.

The people that think that , as the threads show, are either Floyd uber haters or Manny diehards. I think boxing fans recognize that Thurman, for example, while younger than Cotto, Manny, ODH, Shane and JMM when Floyd fought them is not as good now as they were at the age they fought Floyd.

We can't just make younger equate to better. Which, going back to my original post, is why if a Richard Hamilton or Jerry Stackhouse gets the better of Jordan when he was on the Wizards, it doesn't affect his legacy.

Now if Manny beats Crawford and Spence, 2 top 5 p4p fighters, then I think it fair to look at those wins like you do a Duran over Davey Moore or a Barrera over Hamed.

But he still wouldn't pass Floyd, the same way LeBron winning a couple titles late in his career will not elevate him past Jordan.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Errol is enrolled in VADA so he will look the same as he always does. Without VADA/USADA testing, Manny gtes KO wins (Matthysse) with the VADA/USAD testing he gets 12 rd UD's (Broner).

negative. spence just barely did vada testing for the mikey fight. no ko. went all 12rds against a smaller fighter. at least manny was fighting guys that was his size or bigger. see what i mean, LOL.

[markther]

True indeed! Clever game plan both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the ring! Castillo, Corrales, Judah, De La Hoya, Mosely, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, and richest prize fighter of all time! Much respect!

When you look at Floyd’s resume, he got some names in there, the ones you mentioned and these too, Genaro Hernandez, Arturo Gatti, Baldomir, Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana,

[Bronx2245]

I think this has always been the plan for PBC. Let Manny/Keith fight without VADA so Manny wins. Then Spence and Porter unify. Manny can't fight for the WBC belt without enrolling in the Clean Boxing Program so then he will be back to normal (how he looked against Floyd) when he fights Spence.

That isn't enough for Spence to be a star. he will need to beat Crawford or Floyd after Manny to really break out.

I disagree. If Pacquiao beats Thurman, and Spence beats Pacquiao, he's a STAR! That fight would be huge, and Jerry Jones would be all over it! However, that win does not make him "better" than Bud Crawford! Remember how the Brits kept saying Joshua was the best because he had three belts, and Wilder only had one? Same thing! Errol can beat Pacquiao to become a "STAR," but he has to beat Crawford (or Canelo) to be considered "THE BEST!"