Why all the hate on GGG's resume?

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  • Joe Beamish
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    #71
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    These are the same casuals who praise Hopkins resume which was garbage at 160. He hid out and padded his record against a long string of no-hopers in order to break Monzon's defense record and avoid prime Toney and Jones at 168. While we are at it, lets talk about Monzon's record as well. His resume is full of washed up past-prime opponents and blown up WWs.
    You can throw Hagler in there as well, while you're at it. Beating a lot of guys coming up in weight. (Those guys were really, really good, though.)

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #72
      Originally posted by Joe Beamish
      You can throw Hagler in there as well, while you're at it. Beating a lot of guys coming up in weight. (Those guys were really, really good, though.)
      I would say Hearns, Leonard amd Duran were more comfortable and competitive at 160 than DLH amd Tito. Hagler was a smaller MW than Hopkins. Leonard would go on to finish his career at LHW and SMW after the Hagler fight. Duran had trouble making 154 the fight prior, but he also claimed he damaged his right hand in the 5th round of the Hagler fight and it cost him the fight. Hearns was a big WW. I guess the criticism of Hagler and Monzon is that they never moved out of 160, but I wouldn’t call that a valid criticism.

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      • Boxing_1013
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        #73
        Originally posted by Cobra Curry
        I never got a handle on all the facts re Ward and GGG so I appreciate the breakdown.

        As for Lara, I agree with much of what you say. Both sides would have reasons not pursue it.
        Thanks man...I enjoy reading your insights as well

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        • Cobra Curry
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          #74
          Originally posted by icha
          this is true, but canelo beating cotto and khan at 155 wasnt really a 160 campaign, the ggg fight was there and neither guy decided to give up a single pound, canelo decided he wasnt ready yet for 160 a weight he never fought before and dropped the belt, which is the right thing to do instead of draining an opponent or holding title hostage... but then immediatley after that canelo made offers to ggg , in fact canelo came to an agreement to a ggg fight befere ever fighting above 155, he didnt even needed to test the waters like most fighters will do before fighting the top dog of the next division...
          Icha, my good fellow, if Canelo didn't feel he was big enough for 160, he ought to have fought at 154. Above 154 is middleweight, he won and defended the middleweight title. Thus, Golovkin was in his weight class, not the one above.
          He then moved up to super middle to fight Chavez Jr, which would fall under "testing the waters" in my book.

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          • DaNeutral.
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            #75
            He is white and he is not American. Alot of reasons for people in America to hate him right there.

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            • icha
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              #76
              Originally posted by Cobra Curry
              Icha, my good fellow, if Canelo didn't feel he was big enough for 160, he ought to have fought at 154. Above 154 is middleweight, he won and defended the middleweight title. Thus, Golovkin was in his weight class, not the one above.
              He then moved up to super middle to fight Chavez Jr, which would fall under "testing the waters" in my book.
              he agreed to a ggg fight before stepping in the ring to fight chavez, so no testing the waters...

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              • Cobra Curry
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                #77
                Originally posted by icha
                he agreed to a ggg fight before stepping in the ring to fight chavez, so no testing the waters...
                He dropped the belt, agreed to fight later and fought at 164 in the meantime.
                We'll have to agree to disagree here.

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                • JERMELL_CHARLO_
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                  #78
                  His wins consist of mostly bums.

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