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I mean...I've heard most of the arguments already...but that talking point about GGG I've just never really understood.
I can understand if people just don't like a guy and want to root against him lol...and to be fair I think there is valid of criticism of any fighter and GGG is no different.
But as far as resume...guys very rarely have a clear win over a HOFer in their prime...I would argue GGG did that against Canelo but honestly not really the main point of the thread.
But if the attack on him is 'who else' other than Canelo...I mean many guys don't have a non-controversial clear win over a HOFer in their prime...because HOFers very rarely clearly lose in their prime, that's mainly why they are HOFers ya know.
I just think 15 KOs over good fighters, all in their relative primes, all at basically their best weight (Brook a notable exception) is really solid...especially to never have a hiccup in those fights and to win them all clearly.
GGG has never been the 'home' fighter and had to get a favorable decision in there as well...just think it is very respectable to handle business like that and never even go 12 rounds or have a hint of controversy in about 15 fights like that.
So yeah...Murray, Lemieux, Brook, Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Stevens, Macklin, Vanes, Proksa, Rubio, Adama, Ishida, Rosado, Rolls all by KO...I mean if he was struggling in half of those to get a decision I would agree with a lot of the criticism but never happened there.
Even the Jacobs/Canelo fights...I mean he outlanded them in 27/33 rounds (3 ties)...that certainly doesn't mean he takes all those rounds, but certainly an indication of his skill level and ability to box.
And when you factor in his punch stats with the fact that everyone acknowledges he is a big puncher, just leads to a lot of clear rounds for him from what I saw...and if he doesn't win it, it is usually a close round imo...he is just too active usually and landing too much.
So yeah interested in some nuanced arguments for or against it if anyone is interested. Or even some comparisons of who particularly has a better resume as a current fighter etc. I just think when I've really looked at GGG's stuff compared to other guys it has stacked up very well.
I can understand if people just don't like a guy and want to root against him lol...and to be fair I think there is valid of criticism of any fighter and GGG is no different.
But as far as resume...guys very rarely have a clear win over a HOFer in their prime...I would argue GGG did that against Canelo but honestly not really the main point of the thread.
But if the attack on him is 'who else' other than Canelo...I mean many guys don't have a non-controversial clear win over a HOFer in their prime...because HOFers very rarely clearly lose in their prime, that's mainly why they are HOFers ya know.
I just think 15 KOs over good fighters, all in their relative primes, all at basically their best weight (Brook a notable exception) is really solid...especially to never have a hiccup in those fights and to win them all clearly.
GGG has never been the 'home' fighter and had to get a favorable decision in there as well...just think it is very respectable to handle business like that and never even go 12 rounds or have a hint of controversy in about 15 fights like that.
So yeah...Murray, Lemieux, Brook, Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Stevens, Macklin, Vanes, Proksa, Rubio, Adama, Ishida, Rosado, Rolls all by KO...I mean if he was struggling in half of those to get a decision I would agree with a lot of the criticism but never happened there.
Even the Jacobs/Canelo fights...I mean he outlanded them in 27/33 rounds (3 ties)...that certainly doesn't mean he takes all those rounds, but certainly an indication of his skill level and ability to box.
And when you factor in his punch stats with the fact that everyone acknowledges he is a big puncher, just leads to a lot of clear rounds for him from what I saw...and if he doesn't win it, it is usually a close round imo...he is just too active usually and landing too much.
So yeah interested in some nuanced arguments for or against it if anyone is interested. Or even some comparisons of who particularly has a better resume as a current fighter etc. I just think when I've really looked at GGG's stuff compared to other guys it has stacked up very well.
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