Why all the hate on GGG's resume?

[Mexican_Puppet]

This is One of the most stu.pid thread in the SIDE...


GGG resume is trash.

He never took risks

He ducked Andrade months ago

He has a soft career

Only two good rivals, he struggled a lot vs Jacobs and Lost vs Canelo pretty clear in the rematch

[Murcielago]

He opted for Vanes and Rolls when he could have picked better opposition and he chose not to.

[Citizen Koba]

I mean...I've heard most of the arguments already...but that talking point about GGG I've just never really understood.

I can understand if people just don't like a guy and want to root against him lol...and to be fair I think there is valid of criticism of any fighter and GGG is no different.

But as far as resume...guys very rarely have a clear win over a HOFer in their prime...I would argue GGG did that against Canelo but honestly not really the main point of the thread.

But if the attack on him is 'who else' other than Canelo...I mean many guys don't have a non-controversial clear win over a HOFer in their prime...because HOFers very rarely clearly lose in their prime, that's mainly why they are HOFers ya know.

I just think 15 KOs over good fighters, all in their relative primes, all at basically their best weight (Brook a notable exception) is really solid...especially to never have a hiccup in those fights and to win them all clearly.

GGG has never been the 'home' fighter and had to get a favorable decision in there as well...just think it is very respectable to handle business like that and never even go 12 rounds or have a hint of controversy in about 15 fights like that.

So yeah...Murray, Lemieux, Brook, Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Stevens, Macklin, Vanes, Proksa, Rubio, Adama, Ishida, Rosado, Rolls all by KO...I mean if he was struggling in half of those to get a decision I would agree with a lot of the criticism but never happened there.

Even the Jacobs/Canelo fights...I mean he outlanded them in 27/33 rounds (3 ties)...that certainly doesn't mean he takes all those rounds, but certainly an indication of his skill level and ability to box.

And when you factor in his punch stats with the fact that everyone acknowledges he is a big puncher, just leads to a lot of clear rounds for him from what I saw...and if he doesn't win it, it is usually a close round imo...he is just too active usually and landing too much.

So yeah interested in some nuanced arguments for or against it if anyone is interested. Or even some comparisons of who particularly has a better resume as a current fighter etc. I just think when I've really looked at GGG's stuff compared to other guys it has stacked up very well.

His resume ain't great, but people don't really care about that - not enough to make endless threads disparaging it, certainly - after all there's literally thousands of fighters with worse resumes. The real reason is to be found in the fanbase rivalries on here and the tribal nature of sports and boxing fandom. What people care about ain't GGG himself but scoring points over his fans - or rather certain among his fanbase.

Ultimately you can make any arguments you want to both make the case that GGGs resume is not as bad as some would have you believe and to explain why it does lack the top names that might garner more respect, but folk you're trying to convince ain't seeking genuine debate here, so don't expect to change any minds.

[Cobra Curry]

Lots of nuanced responses here lol.
Golovkin's prime years are missing signature wins. Had he beaten Sturm, Maravilla, Saunders and Canelo we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Unfortunately for him, none of them fancied it and no one remembers.
His detractors will also claim he avoided Lara and Ward.

[DreamFighter]

Lots of nuanced responses here lol.
Golovkin's prime years are missing signature wins. Had he beaten Sturm, Maravilla, Saunders and Canelo we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Unfortunately for him, none of them fancied it and no one remembers.

or fortunately, seeing as he was beaten when it happened ONCE by a lower division guy.

[Cobra Curry]

His resume ain't great, but people don't really care about that - not enough to make endless threads disparaging it, certainly - after all there's literally thousands of fighters with worse resumes. The real reason is to be found in the fanbase rivalries on here and the tribal nature of sports and boxing fandom. What people care about ain't GGG himself but scoring points over his fans - or rather certain among his fanbase.

Ultimately you can make any arguments you want to both make the case that GGGs resume is not as bad as some would have you believe and to explain why it does lack the top names that might garner more respect, but folk you're trying to convince ain't seeking genuine debate here, so don't expect to change any minds.

I tried to green k this but apparently I've got to spread some rep around.

[vaynardevil]

partially u should blame sanchez
he overhyped him tbh
but personally i think his resume is good enough

[Cobra Curry]

or fortunately, seeing as he was beaten when it happened ONCE by a lower division guy.

The middleweight champion can't be classed as a "lower weight guy", especially when he vacated to fight at 164 or whatever it was.

[Cobra Curry]

or fortunately, seeing as he was beaten when it happened ONCE by a lower division guy.

Also you missed the key phrase "prime years".

[CauliflowerEars]

I tried to green k this but apparently I've got to spread some rep around.

That just means your last Green K was also for Koba, right ? As soon as you give one to somebody else, you should be able to go back to Koba.