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  • techliam
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    What has the WBA been up to? 2019

    Hi all,

    I thought it was time for my periodic look at how the WBA continue to plague the sport. For those who keep up with my posts, know I’ve a long history in trying to highlight some of the WBA’s contributions.

    I haven’t seen much reference to this here, but let’s look at the new WBA champion - the WBA ‘Gold’ Champion. If you head over to the WBA website, you’ll see they now list 4 champions per division - Super, World, Interim and Gold. This championship seems to have been implemented very quietly, and there are no references to it in their regulations. Rumour has it, that it may serve as a mandatory position for the Regular belt, or even a mandatory position for the interim belt. So let’s look at how this may work at HW:

    Super Champion Ruiz Jr, whose mandatory is World Champion Manuel Charr, whose mandatory is either interim World Champion Trevor Bryon or Gold Champion Joe Joyce, who may actually be the mandatory for Trevor Bryon. Sadly, my prediction for an interim Super Champion hasn’t yet come true, unless this is what the Gold Champion is. I’m sure it will come one day.

    In other news, the WBA has shown their VADA backed Fair boxing policy to be a shambles. It is mandated that all WBA champions are VADA tested or lose their sanction. Pac/Thurman will not have VADA testing at all, with no reasonable explanation or alternative. There is already questions surrounding Pacquiao’s status with the WBA. He was given a Super Champion belt during the Matthysse build up, whilst Thurman was absent. You’ll find Pacquiao has the exact same belt as Thurman, despite the Regular belt being much more distinct. Perhaps there were plans to strip Thurman? Who knows.

    Denis Lebedev has been secretly installed as the cruiserweight Super Champion, despite being stripped of this status again. It has been done so secretly, that almost no website lists this. The WBA website does, however.

    At 140, Prograis has been elevated to Super Champion, allowing for another ‘regular’ championship to be created, between Barrios and Akhmedov.

    We need to be careful, as we are at a stage where one or more of these sanctioning bodies may end up taking over amateur boxing, at least at the Olympic level. With the collapse of the AIBA, imagine the WBA or WBC polluting the already damaged amateur scene? Big names are already vouching support - for example, Wladimir Klitschko is touting support for the WBA to take over the amateur side.

    There is a silver lining however. In our long quest for a fairer, more equal global society, we can rest easy knowing that, one day soon, we will all be WBA champions.
  • kafkod
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    #2
    Originally posted by techliam
    Denis Lebedev has been secretly installed as the cruiserweight Super Champion, despite being stripped of this status again. It has been done so secretly, that almost no website lists this. The WBA website does, however.
    WTF? I wonder if Lebedev knows about this?

    Maybe it's so secret they haven't even told him!

    Originally posted by techliam
    There is a silver lining however. In our long quest for a fairer, more equal global society, we can rest easy knowing that, one day soon, we will all be WBA champions.
    Don't spread this around, but we already are. ... secret WBA Super Champions ..

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    • TheIronMike
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      LMAO. I thought they were combining the regular and super this year? But instead they added one?

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      • techliam
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        Originally posted by TheIronMike
        LMAO. I thought they were combining the regular and super this year? But instead they added one?
        They have been saying they will reduce titles for years. It’s a good headline for the connected media to throw out too.

        But the reality is staring at us in the face. The WBA can practically get away with anything because there are no repercussions for them.

        The WBA gold belt is physically the same as the WBA regular belt too. It’s identical

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        • Pigeons
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          #5
          There's only one way to fix this if we're gonna be real.


          Assassinations.

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          • techliam
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            #6
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            There's only one way to fix this if we're gonna be real.


            Assassinations.
            A start would be for boxing media to stop recognising silly titles. Networks and promoters are the stumbling block, but their attempts would fall on deaf ears if their promotion of worthless titles were rightly met with scrutiny

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            • DARTH SILKWORMS
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              Originally posted by techliam
              A start would be for boxing media to stop recognising silly titles. Networks and promoters are the stumbling block, but their attempts would fall on deaf ears if their promotion of worthless titles were rightly met with scrutiny
              I think the media should actually try the opposite. Take no position on which titles are legitimate. List all titles at stake and be very specific. Just report the facts. It would become so confusing that promoters would be forced to start showing some self control. The media's job should be to report the facts, not play kingmaker of which titles are official and which aren't. "Ignoring" titles is part of how things got this bad. Promoters could put a random title on the line, the media would say a title was at stake, but refuse to say which one, and suddenly all titles become equal in the eyes of the public. Which gives promoters less incentive to only focus on the top titles.

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              • DuckAdonis
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                When is someone going to interview Gilberto and put him on the spot.

                From gifting Davis the belt at 130 and demoting the actual champion for no reason to giving out 4 belts in one division and claiming to have multiple champions in the same division under the same org.

                Someone needs to stop this mess ...
                Last edited by DuckAdonis; 06-25-2019, 03:36 PM.

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                • DARTH SILKWORMS
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                  Originally posted by DuckAdonis
                  When is someone going to interview Gilberto and put him on the spot.

                  From gifting Davis the belt at 130 and stripping the actual champion for no reason to giving out 4 belts in one division and claiming to have multiple champions in the same division under the same org.

                  Someone needs to stop this mess ...
                  I agree Tank was gifted that belt, but when was the champion stripped for no reason?

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                  • DuckAdonis
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                    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
                    I agree Tank was gifted that belt, but when was the champion stripped for no reason?
                    Not exactly stripped, but 'demoted' I guess. It's the same thing as stripping really but yeah technically it's not the same I guess

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