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I don't think that's what happened. Didn't one of them miss weight? When you miss weight, you get stripped. If Machado was fighting for the vacant WBA title, that might explain why they didn't automatically name him super champion. I'm not saying Tank Davis should have been allowed to fight for the super championship, but that also doesn't mean Machado was demoted. Machado fought the former champion and won the vacant world title. He was never super champion and he never fought the current champion, so whatever vacant title he won, it couldn't be a demotion.Comment
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The normal procedure is that when you fight someone for a title but the champ misses weight...then only the challenger can win the belt. I watched the fight live. The WBA world championship belt was on the line, but only for Machado. They mentioned it several times in the broadcast. Machado was called the new world champion and on ESPN he was also stated as the WBA super world champ...not just the regular champ. It all changed when suddenly Davis got to fight some dude coming up in weight and off a 2 year lay off for a WBA title. Then all of a sudden that became for the super title. Even though Machado fought the WBA Mando...
It's all super strange and nobody even knows where the demotion happened. Not even Machado himself, he was interviewed about it. Just the WBA being corruptComment
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That may be how it comes across to the average fan, but that's not technically what happens. If the champion misses weight, they are immediately stripped. The other fighter is typically then allowed to fight for a vacant title. In the case of a WBA or WBO super champion, the vacant title being fought for usually isn't the super championship, even if the fighter that was stripped had been super champion.
First of all, the fight was on HBO, not ESPN. Second of all, TV networks confuse titles all the time. Machado won the WBA world title and was called the new world champion. He was never demoted. He remained world champion. Being demoted would have meant becoming interim champion. That never happened.The WBA world championship belt was on the line, but only for Machado. They mentioned it several times in the broadcast. Machado was called the new world champion and on ESPN he was also stated as the WBA super world champ...not just the regular champ.
That's not true. Machado was listed as world champion month after month for six months before Davis ever fought for the super championship. Machado was always listed as having won the WBA world title in boxrec, not the super title. Never once was Machado listed as super champion on the WBA website or in the WBA rankings, even though the Tank fight took place six months later.It all changed when suddenly Davis got to fight some dude coming up in weight and off a 2 year lay off for a WBA title.Comment
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Do you work for the WBA or something?
Literally every boxing fan on here and other places thought Machado was the super WBA champ until the Tank fight happened. How come you know so much about it but Machado has no clue. Even ESPN had Machado as the legit champ on their website. And they always count regular champ with a * next to it. It's ridiculous. If this is the case then the WBA made a great effort to confuse fans and networks about the situationComment
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I look at the ratings of all the sanctioning bodies every month because it's a good way to see which fights are likely to occur soon. I'm just a fan. I hate the WBA as much as anybody else. All of their titles have become a complete joke. Super, world, interim, gold. It's ridiculous.
Fans think a lot of things about the belts that aren't true. The belts are often very confusing and the media often does a horrible job of explaining them.Literally every boxing fan on here and other places thought Machado was the super WBA champ until the Tank fight happened.
You don't have to like what happened. I don't like what happened. But I'm telling the truth. You can go to the WBA website yourself and type in any month and year and see the ratings. Machado was listed as WBA world champion month after month for six months after winning the title. He was never listed as super champion. He was never demoted. That doesn't mean Tank should have been allowed to fight someone else for the super championship. That was definitely unfair. I'm not defending the WBA. They're a joke and boxing would be better off without them. I'm just stating plain fact that Machado wasn't demoted.Comment
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The WBA themselves say he was defending the WBA super title. The belt he physically won in the ring was the super belt.
Contractually, it makes no difference to the fighter if the champion doesn’t make weight, as he is still fighting for the same title in the same circumstances, other than weight of opponent. The title the fight was sanctioned for was the Super title.
I understand your point, and it’s a fun academic exercise, but unless Machado signed another sanctioning agreement the day before the fight, he should not have been offered a different title.
This has been the only time that I can recall, where the sole WBA Champion was demoted to Regular and an arbitrary Super title was sanctionedComment
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