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  • LacedUp
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    #81
    We all knew before the fight that Schwartz was a complete binman. No reason to act like we're surprised.

    I tweeted two months ago to someone that Ruiz would get criticized if he fought Schwartz (he retweeted, before he became famous) and that's the truth. The fury show is fun, and I'm a fan, but Schwartz was a complete bum and we all know it.

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    • landotter
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      #82
      Originally posted by Idunnoshet
      Joshua has had a good run of opponents since beating Klitchko compared to Fury.
      Even AJ's late replacement was better than Schwartz .
      Yep. And it is not even close.

      If Fury sticks to, let's say top 20 HW from here on out, than all is fine. But enough with the slugs that have pulses and boxing gloves on. Fury has his own network now as far as HW are concerned, and ESPN will pump him up mercilessly. He needs to show he truly is what I keep hearing he is, or we need to be honest. He is choosing fights that are hot garbage when you remove Wilder from the recent run.

      His story recovering from demons is amazing. His recent opponents are not. I am a Luis Ortiz fan, and I say the same thing about his resume. Remove Wilder, and Ortiz has fought no real names lately. But nobody is defending Ortiz as the #1 guy like Fury is being hailed as since Joshua's whipping. What Joshua said is accurate.

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      • Tatabanya
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        #83
        Originally posted by P4Pdunny
        Styles make fights, I can’t see him stopping AJ and I can’t see AJ stopping him.
        It's true. But what brought me to write this was AJ's demeanour in the Ruiz fight. I think he was shocked, a little bit like David Price with Tony Thompson.

        It's the kind of harsh wake-up that completely destroys one's confidence. Now I envision Joshua being hurt even by lesser punchers, and that includes Fury.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Robertthebruce
          Hey I didn't call u a casual I just mentioned there are a load of football fans at my work who watched a fight for once and thought they knew it all and being assertive that Fury is the world's best and will KO both AJ and Wilder in the same night..made me laugh
          You laughed?? You seem to be in love with circus shows. Look here, the current Tyson Fury is 20% away in fitness from the Fury that beat Wladimir. This Fury has much more power in his punches than the Fury that fought Wilder. Next year, Fury will be 100% fit and that's when Wilder is expected to fight him in the rematch. No way Wilder will survive that.....even the Fury of today has a better chance of knocking him out. I wont even talk about Joshua. Fury would break him down mentally more than Ruiz Did. You will laugh first next time...we shall laugh last.

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          • EMOBCBG
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            #85
            Originally posted by Straightener
            He’s just not a puncher

            It’s like Mayweather taking on the jap kickboxer

            There’s levels to the game and fury has never slept / dropped a legit heavy

            His skills are great but he can’t **** . Swartz was just cannon fodder for arums hype train and people gobble it up
            If Fury had no power, no way Wladimir would have been hugging him all day and no way would Wilder be on his bike in round 12.

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            • P4Pdunny
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              #86
              Originally posted by Tatabanya
              It's true. But what brought me to write this was AJ's demeanour in the Ruiz fight. I think he was shocked, a little bit like David Price with Tony Thompson.

              It's the kind of harsh wake-up that completely destroys one's confidence. Now I envision Joshua being hurt even by lesser punchers, and that includes Fury.
              It could be, although I reckon that AJ probably gets hurt a lot in sparring and has still gone on to win fights. It's probably good that he's experienced it in an actual fight because he was crippled mentally by the fear of losing (not far off his actual words).

              Now he's lost, hopefully he goes back to the performances before winning the title. I know the level of opposition stepped up but he used his size, attributes more beforehand. I'm quite surprised at how many people don't give him a chance in the rematch I think it's a 50/50.

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                #87
                Originally posted by P4Pdunny
                It could be, although I reckon that AJ probably gets hurt a lot in sparring and has still gone on to win fights. It's probably good that he's experienced it in an actual fight because he was crippled mentally by the fear of losing (not far of his actual words).

                Now he's lost, hopefully he goes back to the performances before winning the title. I know the level of opposition stepped up but he used his size, attributes more beforehand. I'm quite surprised at how many people don't give him a chance in the rematch I think it's a 50/50.
                For him to win the rematch, he has to apply a Kovalev vs Alvarez II type of "back-to-boxing" strategy. Essentially, he must try to outbox Ruiz from distance. If he succeeds, he'll probably get his revenge on the Snickerman.

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                • P4Pdunny
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  For him to win the rematch, he has to apply a Kovalev vs Alvarez II type of "back-to-boxing" strategy. Essentially, he must try to outbox Ruiz from distance. If he succeeds, he'll probably get his revenge on the Snickerman.
                  Exactly what i was saying to someone the other day.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by EMOBCBG
                    You laughed?? You seem to be in love with circus shows. Look here, the current Tyson Fury is 20% away in fitness from the Fury that beat Wladimir. This Fury has much more power in his punches than the Fury that fought Wilder. Next year, Fury will be 100% fit and that's when Wilder is expected to fight him in the rematch. No way Wilder will survive that.....even the Fury of today has a better chance of knocking him out. I wont even talk about Joshua. Fury would break him down mentally more than Ruiz Did. You will laugh first next time...we shall laugh last.
                    Hey I like Fury as well I just don't go overboard after 1 win against a bum let's talk once the Wilder fight is done as knowing Furys strategy against elite fighters he ain't knocking him out but will outbox him beautifully.....unless he gets a windmill

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                      #90
                      It’s interesting how a lot of us believe Joshua needs a better trainer. But I think Wilder can use a better chief trainer too. Someone here may have touched on this already. But can you imagine if Wilder had a trainer that could help improve his boxing skills with that kind of power. I would love to see a guy like Larry Holmes work with him and teach him how to consistently use the jab and box. Not necessarily train him just give him some extra guidance in the gym. Sorta of like the NBA & NFL retired legends that come back and provide extra paid consultation to the younger talent. Wilder needs someone to help him become a much better boxer fundamentally and help him understand how to better utilize his height & strengths. The power will always be there. He needs help with everything else inside the ring.

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