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  • Bronx2245
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    #41
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Whats worth a damn at 160 besides Canelo? Everyone who's not Canelo is aiming for Canelo at 160. Hell everyone who's not #1 in any non-160lb division should be aiming towards the #1 guy in their division.

    How GGG is thinking is how all competitive boxers should be thinking. Somehow all these fanboys have made GGG doing the same thing everyone else is doing bad.

    That said I do agree GGG & Tommy need to take what they can get venue-wise & act accordingly with their strategy. If you fight Canelo in Vegas again lets not act like winning 7 rounds is necessarily going to win the fight. You need some KD's, better yet a KO. Leave it all in the ring. But GGG has leverage due to casuals knowing him & caring about this rivalry, but he's not got the sorta leverage that can dictate where he gets the fight at.
    I think Charlo and Andrade are "worth a damn!" He got 2 paydays from Canelo, yet still feels entitled enough to decline both Charlo and Andrade, and expect to have his rematch before either one! I think that's doing a little more than what "everyone else is doing!" Like I said, he needs a "Plan B!"

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #42
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      I think Charlo and Andrade are "worth a damn!" He got 2 paydays from Canelo, yet still feels entitled enough to decline both Charlo and Andrade, and expect to have his rematch before either one! I think that's doing a little more than what "everyone else is doing!" Like I said, he needs a "Plan B!"
      I like Mall. I think he's got some skills. I think he could test Canelo &/or GGG in certain ways & maybe pull an upset, but he don't even got a belt & there is no upside to fighting a top ten guy for GGG when he's #2.

      But Andrade is a paper champion who won his belt off of some late sub from Namibia ffs. His belt means f#ck all lets quit bsing like thats not a fact. And no one knows him or gives a f#ck about him.

      When you are outside of the top ten you wanna fight a top ten guy.

      When you are in the top ten you wanna fight a top 3 guy.

      When you are the #2 guy you wanna fight the #1 guy.

      GGG is the #2 guy in the division. Canelo is #1. OF COURSE Canelo is the only fight that matters to him & as it should be.

      And sh^t EVERYONE needs & has a plan B. Thats why we saw GGG vs Rolls. Maybe we do see GGG vs Andrade if Canelo fights Callum or some other random 160 guy next. But the bullseye is on Canelo for GGG cuz he's #2 & Canelo is #1. It don't matter if they fought 7 times. Plus this fight has value to DAZN who's trying to entice casuals to sub to their platform & having two of the small handful of fighters casuals know fight is +EV for DAZN too so its happening regardless if Canelo wants it, if GBP wants it or if GGG wins a title or not before it happens. And GGG & Tommy knows this & thats why he's gonna take low risk fights cuz there is no upside in taking risks.

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      • Iron Fister
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        #43
        No casting wraps for Canelo in NY.

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        • Bronx2245
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          #44
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I like Mall. I think he's got some skills. I think he could test Canelo &/or GGG in certain ways & maybe pull an upset, but he don't even got a belt & there is no upside to fighting a top ten guy for GGG when he's #2.

          But Andrade is a paper champion who won his belt off of some late sub from Namibia ffs. His belt means f#ck all lets quit bsing like thats not a fact. And no one knows him or gives a f#ck about him.

          When you are outside of the top ten you wanna fight a top ten guy.

          When you are in the top ten you wanna fight a top 3 guy.

          When you are the #2 guy you wanna fight the #1 guy.

          GGG is the #2 guy in the division. Canelo is #1. OF COURSE Canelo is the only fight that matters to him & as it should be.

          And sh^t EVERYONE needs & has a plan B. Thats why we saw GGG vs Rolls. Maybe we do see GGG vs Andrade if Canelo fights Callum or some other random 160 guy next. But the bullseye is on Canelo for GGG cuz he's #2 & Canelo is #1. It don't matter if they fought 7 times. Plus this fight has value to DAZN who's trying to entice casuals to sub to their platform & having two of the small handful of fighters casuals know fight is +EV for DAZN too so its happening regardless if Canelo wants it, if GBP wants it or if GGG wins a title or not before it happens. And GGG & Tommy knows this & thats why he's gonna take low risk fights cuz there is no upside in taking risks.
          It easy to say GGG is #2, so long as he doesn't have to face Charlo or Andrade! I guess we'll never know if he's really #2, since he has no intention of fighting either one!

          DAZN shouldn't allow GGG to skip over Andrade since a) Andrade is the WBO Champion, b) Andrade has been with DAZN longer, and c) GGG declined to fight Andrade, and chose Rolls instead!

          The WBC should not allow Canelo vs. GGG 3 since a) Charlo is the Interim Champion since 4eva, b) GGG declined to fight Charlo, c) GGG chose to fight Rolls instead!

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            #45
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            It easy to say GGG is #2, so long as he doesn't have to face Charlo or Andrade! I guess we'll never know if he's really #2, since he has no intention of fighting either one!
            If GGG was younger I'd agree with this more, but this is a big fight that could get lost if GGG shows up old one night & he loses to some Rolls-type mfer.

            DAZN shouldn't allow GGG to skip over Andrade since a) Andrade is the WBO Champion, b) Andrade has been with DAZN longer, and c) GGG declined to fight Andrade, and chose Rolls instead!
            Whats seniority reallllllly worth if no one gives a f#ck about Andrade? I say not a damn thing.

            Also why wouldn't DAZN want GGG vs Canelo III? Thats a mainstream fight that'll help them get subs. They are in the sub business not in the getting GGG to earn his third fight with Canelo business.

            I think its a lock GGG vs Canelo happens within 12 months. It happens in September or May. If it doesn't then DAZN musta legit went outta business like MCC keeps seeming to predict.

            The WBC should not allow Canelo vs. GGG 3 since a) Charlo is the Interim Champion since 4eva, b) GGG declined to fight Charlo, c) GGG chose to fight Rolls instead!
            Cmon the hell on lol ABC groups are not known for their morality or righteousness. Pretty sure WBC Guy has jacked off to Canelo when he's been sober more than once & probably dozens of times when drunk. So WBC Guy isn't gonna force much on Canelo at this point I imagine.

            I'd certainly like to see Mall get his shot & definitely prefer seeing Mall vs Canelo instead of Andrade vs Canelo, but I don't the WBC Guy is anywhere close to pushing that fight on Canelo.

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            • Motorcity Cobra
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              #46
              Originally posted by ralex
              Lol. Yeah that made no sense.
              I wouldn't say it makes no sense. I think he was getting at what the poster below says.
              Originally posted by Verus
              Big media markets like New York, Los Angeles, and London generate buzz well beyond the city limits, national and international in scale in some cases. By way of illustration, compare that to fighting in Ness City Kansas (apologies to the folks of Ness City).
              Right. I agree. This is the Haymon model which he was criticized heavily for. Having Spence, Davis, Charlo's fight in NY as opposed to their hometowns. Fighters like Bud & Easter Jr can fight in sell out in their hometowns because they aren't major cities and no professional sports teams. The others had to fight in major media markets to garner attention first.

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              • kushking
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                #47
                Nothing is assured in life but death & Keith Idec nuthugging foldlovkin

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                • kushking
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  It easy to say GGG is #2, so long as he doesn't have to face Charlo or Andrade! I guess we'll never know if he's really #2, since he has no intention of fighting either one!

                  DAZN shouldn't allow GGG to skip over Andrade since a) Andrade is the WBO Champion, b) Andrade has been with DAZN longer, and c) GGG declined to fight Andrade, and chose Rolls instead!

                  The WBC should not allow Canelo vs. GGG 3 since a) Charlo is the Interim Champion since 4eva, b) GGG declined to fight Charlo, c) GGG chose to fight Rolls instead!
                  Exactly right! Ggg shouldn't get to jump the line

                  Ggg is the most entitled diva in history & kvnts like keith idec are the reason he gets away with it. All these gggroupies are permanently in full blown denial, militant damage control mode. Ffs they still have daily Idec articles defending gstring divas bumslaying & never giving canelo his respect using lame ass qoutes like" ggg should've won the 1st one but the 2nd was close" everytime I read dumb sht from professional fanbois im like gtfoh with that bs Canelo whooped gs ass 2nd fight!

                  Any writer who cries about the 1st fight unfairly being a draw then says"the 2nd was merely a lot closer" is a straight up gstring ball licker, just like the rest of the nelo hating media full of gggroupies like keith Idec/ Rosenthal etc.
                  Last edited by kushking; 06-12-2019, 03:03 PM.

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                  • brettWall
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                    #49
                    GGG calls the shots doe.

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                    • kushking
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                      #50
                      Ffs Canelo literally destroyed gggs entire persona,he turned him into slick brotha style gennadiy who fired his trainer from sheer embarrassment after running his ass so far away from a mexican standoff that he ended up in Kazakhstan.

                      Canelo didn't take gs soul,he made his soul run from his body,thats why hes now the soulless mummy known as no speak english no mo businessman gennadiy, the bum bounty hunter or BBH for short.
                      Last edited by kushking; 06-12-2019, 03:12 PM.

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