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  • psychopath
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    #51
    The difference between a Real boxing fan and a ASS NUTRHUGGING fan


    IF Ali CAN give Leon Sphinks a shot to his title, Barrera gave Pacquiao a shot to his title, Zab gave Baldo a shot to his title and Cotto gave Malignali a shot to his title why can't PBF give Margarito a "UNIFICATION FIGHT"?

    You know the what? Sphinks, Pacquiao, Baldo and Malignali have something in common, they are all without titles and virtually unknown when the big names fought them. In this case, PBF invaded 147 weight class where Margarito is already an established title holder so how can your "NUTHUGGING ASSES" question Marg's resume? That's dumb, that's an ****** excuse to justify why PBF won't fight him.

    This is not ABOUT what PBF is going to do or is capable of doing to Margarito, this is about this fight happening and us seeing what's gonna be the result.

    Oh yeah PBF said "I'm fighting for Legacy, I'm fighting for money", "Margarito is an easy work".

    Now if Margarito is really an easy work and PBF is being offered $8 Million, why don't PBF just get on with it and collect his $8 Mil as fast as he could.

    At the end of the day no matter what DUMB justifications NUTHUGGERS put out, it all boils gown to whether "THE NUMBER 1 P4P FIGHTER" is for real or just a HYPE.

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    • amagnin
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      #52
      Originally posted by psychopath
      The difference between a Real boxing fan and a ASS NUTRHUGGING fan


      IF Ali CAN give Leon Sphinks a shot to his title, Barrera gave Pacquiao a shot to his title, Zab gave Baldo a shot to his title and Cotto gave Malignali a shot to his title why can't PBF give Margarito a "UNIFICATION FIGHT"?

      You know the what? Sphinks, Pacquiao, Baldo and Malignali have something in common, they are all without titles and virtually unknown when the big names fought them. In this case, PBF invaded 147 weight class where Margarito is already an established title holder so how can your "NUTHUGGING ASSES" question Marg's resume? That's dumb, that's an ****** excuse to justify why PBF won't fight him.

      This is not ABOUT what PBF is going to do or is capable of doing to Margarito, this is about this fight happening and us seeing what's gonna be the result.

      Oh yeah PBF said "I'm fighting for Legacy, I'm fighting for money", "Margarito is an easy work".

      Now if Margarito is really an easy work and PBF is being offered $8 Million, why don't PBF just get on with it and collect his $8 Mil as fast as he could.

      At the end of the day no matter what DUMB justifications NUTHUGGERS put out, it all boils gown to whether "THE NUMBER 1 P4P FIGHTER" is for real or just a HYPE.
      I am in basic agreement with you except that I think Baldomir was a mandatory; Pacquiao is a much bigger name than Margarito; and Cotto isn't as big of a name as Floyd. On the other hand I believe that he should fight Margarito next. Spinks is a joke and would add nothing to his legacy. Frankly I don't think Margarito will either but at least real boxing fans like you or I would know he took on a dangerous competitor.

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      • psychopath
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        #53
        Originally posted by amagnin
        I am in basic agreement with you except that I think Baldomir was a mandatory; Pacquiao is a much bigger name than Margarito; and Cotto isn't as big of a name as Floyd. On the other hand I believe that he should fight Margarito next. Spinks is a joke and would add nothing to his legacy. Frankly I don't think Margarito will either but at least real boxing fans like you or I would know he took on a dangerous competitor.

        Dude Pacquiao is a completely nobody when MAB gave him a chance for his No 1 P4P ranking. That was his first fight at featherweight unlike Marg who is already a established title holder wanting to fight another title holder.

        Yes Baldo was a mandatory but ZAB didn't give out any crap to fight him even though a bigger fight against PBF is already in the horizon.

        Of course Cotto cannot a be bigger name than PBF but Cotto didn't have a second thought taking a very high risk fight against an unknown Malignali.

        Yes Marg will not add up to PBFs stature because nobody else would except DLH, now what is PBF gonna do while waiting for that DLH fight? Money is no longer an issue and certainly making excuses and refussing to fight another title holder will not help and add up to Pbf's stature and reputation either.

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        • deliveryman
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          #54
          Originally posted by psychopath
          Dude Pacquiao is a completely nobody when MAB gave him a chance for his No 1 P4P ranking. That was his first fight at featherweight unlike Marg who is already a established title holder wanting to fight another title holder.

          Yes Baldo was a mandatory but ZAB didn't give out any crap to fight him even though a bigger fight against PBF is already in the horizon.

          Of course Cotto cannot a be bigger name than PBF but Cotto didn't have a second thought taking a very high risk fight against an unknown Malignali.

          Yes Marg will not add up to PBFs stature because nobody else would except DLH, now what is PBF gonna do while waiting for that DLH fight? Money is no longer an issue and certainly making excuses and refussing to fight another title holder will not help and add up to Pbf's stature and reputation either.
          Did you just say Paulie was a highrisk fight for Cotto?

          Welcome to my ignore list.

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          • psychopath
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            #55
            Originally posted by deliveryman
            Did you just say Paulie was a highrisk fight for Cotto?

            Welcome to my ignore list.
            Paullie being unknown to you or in U.S. doesn't mean he is no high risk. The guy is undefeated. You can say that now because he lost to Cotto. But what if just like Pacquiao he won and disproved the suppose to be boxing scholars and experts?

            Ignore me as long as you want dude maybe you're one of the guys here who doesn't understand what's objectivity. I'm not wasting my time discussing with illogical posters like you.

            Thanks for ignoring me man, you'll be doing me A BIG FAVOR
            Last edited by psychopath; 07-19-2006, 07:21 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by cortdawg25
              Margarito aint Tito, vargas, Mosley or Delahoya or Wright, his skills are nowhere near theirs, Margo is a limited fighter, cant u see that, how dare u even mention his name with those people, U must be relative of his or something

              I hardly think your a fan of boxing and the sport if u want to see Floyd spar with Margarito who is mediocre opposition. the guy cant move side to side, comes straight forward, has no speed, and throws slow but powerful punches. he has no head movement, he isnt elusive or sneaks his punches. Only thing he got is size and power, do u really think the P4P best can't overcome size and power. And it aint like he got Mike Tyson power. U say u dont want to see him fight mediocre opposition but all of Margarito's skills are mediocre, dude u confused and just dont like Floyd, so just say that and then your posts will be more amusing
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              Then if Margarito is soooooo mediocre like you said..why would gayweather not fight him and get 8 million dollars..easy fight right?...and don't say that margarito has a slight chance of knocking out gayweather that is why he shouldn't fight him...all these gayweather fans keep making excuses for gayweather...the excuses change by the minute..first who is margarito?..he won't generate money for gayweather then 8 million is offered then the gayweather fans write how their is bigger money out there for gayweather(like they are getting a piece), then dlh and mosley decide not to fight this year ..now the gayweather fans are saying gayweather should fight an easy fighter so that he doesn't risk future fights and he should avoid margarito...wow...i've never seen so much back peddling in all my life,,this is a boxing forum right?..or did i mistakenly get in the victoria secret forum

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              • cortdawg25
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                Ok maybe if you stopped and read what I typed before you started running your mouth, you would see tht I never compared Margarito to any of those guys what I said is that Floyd needs to start taking after them and stepping up the way they did. I notice that you only replied to half of what I typed and if you go back and read I didn't even mention Margarito in my post. I simply referred to the fact that Floyd needs to step up the way they did, and love or hate them, you have to atleast respect them for that. Just because you are so defensive about the subject doesn't mean that I don't know anything about boxing. If you feel that you need to defend Floyd that hard, maybe that is your problem because once again I never mentioned Margarito in my post. So like I said before you start running your mouth, maybe you should stop and think about what you are replying to. It would take an ignorant fan to respod with something like " he must be your relative" Dude, how old are you? If you can't talk intelligently about a subject without attacking someone and making ignorant responses maybe you should not respond. If you don't agree that is your perogative, but do it intelligently without having to make ****** comments like "he must be one of your relatives". I am hispanic, and it always takes someone saying some dumb **** like that in defending this little *****. Once again, I never mentioned Marg in this post and I am not a hater just a frustrated fan. If and when Floyd steps up, I will give him his props win or lose. Maybe you should take some notes from amagnin on how to respond, because at leats if he doesn't totally agree with what I have to say, I can respect his opinion because he does it with intelligent criticism.[/QUOTE]


                Ok, u start off by saying that Vargas, Tito, and Mosley were great fighters (which they are) because they fought each other and defined their legacy by doing so which is also true. Then u say Floyd should do the same thing and take a page from their book, well what do u think he is doing by challenging those same great fighters, destroying his legacy? And then this whole discussion, not just your post is about Floyd, his competition and Margarito. U said your a fan of the sport, u want competitive fights, u dont want Floyd to fight mediocre fighters, blah blah and then i intelligently pointed out that Margarito who everybody here wants him to fight(including u) is in fact mediocre. His skills are mediocre, his athletic ability is mediocre, his competition is mediocre, his paper title is mediocre, Magarito is mediocre. I basically just pointed out your contradiction, everything u say u dont want, u root so hard for. me personally I just want to see him fight, I would prefer Mosley because he is great fighter, but I would settle for whoever including Margarito. im just getting tired of reading post like yours insinuating that he scared of this and that and your overall lack of respect for unjustifed reasoning.

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                • cortdawg25
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                  #58
                  Then if Margarito is soooooo mediocre like you said..why would gayweather not fight him and get 8 million dollars..easy fight right?...and don't say that margarito has a slight chance of knocking out gayweather that is why he shouldn't fight him...all these gayweather fans keep making excuses for gayweather...the excuses change by the minute..first who is margarito?..he won't generate money for gayweather then 8 million is offered then the gayweather fans write how their is bigger money out there for gayweather(like they are getting a piece), then dlh and mosley decide not to fight this year ..now the gayweather fans are saying gayweather should fight an easy fighter so that he doesn't risk future fights and he should avoid margarito...wow...i've never seen so much back peddling in all my life,,this is a boxing forum right?..or did i mistakenly get in the victoria secret forum[/QUOTE]

                  Well simple really, Floyd wants to be the best in sport today and history. He not only wants to make the most $$$ that he can, but also boost his name. Margarito appears to offer the money (even though we dont know what circumstance come with that deal) but he doesnt boost his name. Once he is defeated he will be forgotten and downgraded as an expected win just like Gatti. So i cant understand why u dislike a man for exploring his options and trying to secure both values that he needs to get him where he needs to get to be able to move to yet another level. This aint checkers, this chess, it aint just the move in front of u but the next 3 moves as well.

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                  • MetalVomit
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by psychopath

                    Fight Margarito, Mosley and DLH then he can open his mouth and say what ever he wants to say.

                    Not gonna happen.

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                    • jai mari078
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25
                      Ok maybe if you stopped and read what I typed before you started running your mouth, you would see tht I never compared Margarito to any of those guys what I said is that Floyd needs to start taking after them and stepping up the way they did. I notice that you only replied to half of what I typed and if you go back and read I didn't even mention Margarito in my post. I simply referred to the fact that Floyd needs to step up the way they did, and love or hate them, you have to atleast respect them for that. Just because you are so defensive about the subject doesn't mean that I don't know anything about boxing. If you feel that you need to defend Floyd that hard, maybe that is your problem because once again I never mentioned Margarito in my post. So like I said before you start running your mouth, maybe you should stop and think about what you are replying to. It would take an ignorant fan to respod with something like " he must be your relative" Dude, how old are you? If you can't talk intelligently about a subject without attacking someone and making ignorant responses maybe you should not respond. If you don't agree that is your perogative, but do it intelligently without having to make ****** comments like "he must be one of your relatives". I am hispanic, and it always takes someone saying some dumb **** like that in defending this little *****. Once again, I never mentioned Marg in this post and I am not a hater just a frustrated fan. If and when Floyd steps up, I will give him his props win or lose. Maybe you should take some notes from amagnin on how to respond, because at leats if he doesn't totally agree with what I have to say, I can respect his opinion because he does it with intelligent criticism.

                      Ok, u start off by saying that Vargas, Tito, and Mosley were great fighters (which they are) because they fought each other and defined their legacy by doing so which is also true. Then u say Floyd should do the same thing and take a page from their book, well what do u think he is doing by challenging those same great fighters, destroying his legacy? And then this whole discussion, not just your post is about Floyd, his competition and Margarito. U said your a fan of the sport, u want competitive fights, u dont want Floyd to fight mediocre fighters, blah blah and then i intelligently pointed out that Margarito who everybody here wants him to fight(including u) is in fact mediocre. His skills are mediocre, his athletic ability is mediocre, his competition is mediocre, his paper title is mediocre, Magarito is mediocre. I basically just pointed out your contradiction, everything u say u dont want, u root so hard for. me personally I just want to see him fight, I would prefer Mosley because he is great fighter, but I would settle for whoever including Margarito. im just getting tired of reading post like yours insinuating that he scared of this and that and your overall lack of respect for unjustifed reasoning.[/QUOTE]
                      You say that he is trying to define his legacy by trying to fight the same fighters. Assuming you mean Mosley and Oscar. Well he didn't even mention Mosley until the heat was on about Marg. Yes I'll give you that he wants to fight Oscar, but that fight isn't gonna happen right now, and you can't fault Oscar for wanting to wait until next year when he is in better health and not in half ass shape. You also can't fault Mosley for wanting to to wait and get used to welter again, and not just trying to rush back in 3 months after dropping weight like that. It's not like Mosley is that young anymore and it wouldn't affect him. So these are smart moves. Just the way that everyone wants to say it is smart for Floyd to take a less dangerous fight in someone like Spinks. I also wasn't trying to compare Marg's skills to that of any of those fighters or Floyd's for that matter. I think we all know that. I also said that all the fighters that I mentioned made fights happen that public wanted to see regardless of how dangerous the fight was or the opponent. You think it wasn't dangerous for Oscar to take on Trinidad when he was undefeated, and no I am not trying to put Marg in either one of there leagues because he is not even close. I am simply comparing the situation, and saying that this is the fight the public wants to see. Frankly, I am getting tired of even talking about this. It's obvious that this ffight isn't gonna happen and people are gonna continue to round and round about this subject. I hear rumor of a Marg. vs. Judah fight. I don't even know how Judah keeps getting these oppurtunities, but if that's what it takes for this fight to happens than so be it and even after that I don't see this fight ever happening because Floyd has his sights set on Mosley and DLH next year which I really want to see. We will keep beating this subject to death but I honestly don't know why because it isn't gonna happen.

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