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    #41
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Ruiz poses more threat then a Frazier for other reasons ,I’d give Ruiz a win if they fought more then twice ,I’d give older Foreman a bigger advantage due to better pacing and durability .
    Facts agreed what I say on other pages is this if young george had his skills of his older self he would give certain people tougher matches

    Young george with his old skills wouldnt had fell from being so drained in the ali Match he wouldnt had looked drained in the early rounds he just would be ko from the pain

    He wouldnt had to keep putting joe down to stop him he would wear him down then when its time to ko him pinpoint a shot to the jaw old george had that talent of being able to pinpoint sensitive spots

    He wouldnt had been so easy to pick off by jim

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      #42
      Originally posted by moneytheman

      Good job trolling yourself idiot
      Nobody is taking you seriously in this thread man. Everybody is laughing at your nonsense.

      Clown…

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        #43
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        This can't be real...who made this thread?
        Bro, there are actually lunatics saying Ruiz wins.

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          #44
          Originally posted by moneytheman

          Facts agreed what I say on other pages is this if young george had his skills of his older self he would give certain people tougher matches

          Young george with his old skills wouldnt had fell from being so drained in the ali Match he wouldnt had looked drained in the early rounds he just would be ko from the pain

          He wouldnt had to keep putting joe down to stop him he would wear him down then when its time to ko him pinpoint a shot to the jaw old george had that talent of being able to pinpoint sensitive spots

          He wouldnt had been so easy to pick off by jim
          That’s why one fight usually doesn’t tell everything . Ali vs Foreman rematch may have ended differently ? It’s why most posters get it wrong on the forum ,rematches tend to have different outcomes . I think the only rematches I picked turning the same were the Fury and Wilder ones . I remember most saying how Povetkin was going to knockout Whyte but when it ended differently he was then a shot fighter , A.J is hilariously funny when the forum had Ruiz number one in some rankings and was the new king but after he took his loss he was never really good anyway.

          There’s a lot of big punchers who are giants so I don’t know how Ruiz fares against them ,I think it’s an uphill battle ,I think he’s still ranking about Parker level but if you throw Parker against Fireman I think Parker gets bullied and beat up but Ruiz isn’t that easily pressured , it’s just being able to use realistic judges in parring guys off .
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-21-2022, 01:07 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            That’s why one fight usually doesn’t tell everything . Ali vs Foreman rematch may have ended differently ? It’s why most posters get it wrong on the forum ,rematches tend to have different outcomes . I think the only rematches I picked turning the same were the Fury and Wilder ones . I remember most saying how Povetkin was going to knockout Whyte but when it ended differently he was then a shot fighter , A.J is hilariously funny when the forum had Ruiz number one in some rankings and was the new king but after he took his loss he was never really good anyway.

            There’s a lot of big punchers who are giants so I don’t know how Ruiz fares against them ,I think it’s an uphill battle ,I think he’s still ranking about Parker level but if you throw Parker against Fireman I think Parker gets bullied and beat up but Ruiz isn’t that easily pressured , it’s just being able to use realistic judges in parring guys off .
            Facts agian I think most of the problem not just here but other pages is people are crazy which is why I call them that they become crazy and dumb saying stuff that makes no sense and its only off of name only not in ring skill or style
            oh george beat joe up so he beat everybody up who is named a swammer style up yet joe wasn't In shape that match and hardly did anything

            Yet they leave out other matches where the swammer didnt get destroyed and they leave out how george was easy to outbox and pick and land combos on

            Ali is another one who is held to being unbeatable why i dont know he never had a real challenge who was skilled except joe its been mutiple people 70s-90s who are more skilled then joe way more why cant they beat ali to

            I like Anthony he is good alot of people call him bad but he is skilled he could beat people in 70s-90s to off of skill only

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              #46
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              Nobody is taking you seriously in this thread man. Everybody is laughing at your nonsense.

              Clown…
              Your trolling yourself still fake laughing which i cant hear or that I find odd doesn't effect me none of what you crazy people say can bother me much cause im not like you people

              If you wanted to hurt me you would have to know me personally and know what to say you can keep let's see if you figure it out crazy dummy
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                #47
                Originally posted by moneytheman

                Facts agian I think most of the problem not just here but other pages is people are crazy which is why I call them that they become crazy and dumb saying stuff that makes no sense and its only off of name only not in ring skill or style
                oh george beat joe up so he beat everybody up who is named a swammer style up yet joe wasn't In shape that match and hardly did anything

                Yet they leave out other matches where the swammer didnt get destroyed and they leave out how george was easy to outbox and pick and land combos on

                Ali is another one who is held to being unbeatable why i dont know he never had a real challenge who was skilled except joe its been mutiple people 70s-90s who are more skilled then joe way more why cant they beat ali to

                I like Anthony he is good alot of people call him bad but he is skilled he could beat people in 70s-90s to off of skill only
                Well currently Usyk is the current example of how the forum runs ,one minute Usyk is a bum the next he’s the greatest fighter now .

                When A.J defeats him as he should I’m saving all these crazy posts for the crazy crew on here when I catch them jumping ship again and on to the next .

                I don’t consider anyone unbeatable everyone has taking losses it’s just a matter of who a forum targets as overatted and it’s usually the fighter doing the most .

                Id say Vitali Klitschko and a prime Mike Tyson for me were as hard to beat as anyone based off of performances . A.J could be that guy we’ll see if he makes a solid run after Usyk but right now off hand Mike and Vitali almost seemed unbeatable at their best .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-21-2022, 01:21 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER

                  Well currently Usyk is the current example of how the forum runs ,one minute Usyk is a bum the next he’s the greatest fighter now .

                  When A.J defeats him as he should I’m saving all these crazy posts for the crazy crew on here when I catch them jumping ship again and on to the next .

                  I don’t consider anyone unbeatable everyone has taking losses it’s just a matter of who a forum targets as overatted and it’s usually the fighter doing the most .

                  Id say Vitali Klitschko and a prime Mike Tyson fir me were as hard to beat as anyone based off of performances .
                  So do you see Anthony being a threat for 70s-90s boxers like me he is good same as fury who is great i see him having no real problem in 70s except ali and jim and 80s its people there who give him trouble same as 90s

                  I would add Lennox to who is the best outboxer in hw ever i seen with power he was always hard to beat

                  Usyk is good to I seen crazy people call him trash to which is odd he got good good at using his height and has power and can use good angles to punch he is another one who can run though 70s-90s or the other era before all these dudes are highly skilled yet called trash cause the era Andy is even called trash cause he isn't a big name he is a middle carder doesn't mean he's trash
                  Last edited by Ascended; 01-21-2022, 01:29 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by moneytheman

                    So do you see Anthony being a threat for 70s-90s boxers like me he is good same as fury who is great i see him having no real problem in 70s except ali and jim and 80s its people there who give him trouble same as 90s

                    I would add Lennox to who is the best outboxer in hw ever i seen with power he was always hard to beat

                    Usyk is good to I seen crazy people call him trash to which is odd he got good good at using his height and has power and can use good angles to punch he is another one who can run though 70s-90s or the other era before all these dudes are highly skilled yet called trash cause the era Andy is even called trash cause he isn't a big name he is a middle carder doesn't mean he's trash
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by moneytheman

                      So do you see Anthony being a threat for 70s-90s boxers like me he is good same as fury who is great i see him having no real problem in 70s except ali and jim and 80s its people there who give him trouble same as 90s

                      I would add Lennox to who is the best outboxer in hw ever i seen with power he was always hard to beat
                      I think A.J is very dangerous as Usyk said you take one moment of focus off him it could be the end of the fight . People have to understand he’s a huge powerful explosive puncher still getting better ,he’s never lost 2 championship fights in a row like Wlad Klitschko so he’s ahead of him just there not just physically defeating him . A.J should be ranked over most in 1990 match ups . I think Fury reliance on height gets him in trouble with a lot of those guys ,he hasn’t fought the diversity that A.J has who fought the better boxer punchers that the 90”s were filled with .

                      I think A.J does a lot better things then Lewis ,many forget he needed a all time great trainer to get to where he did . I’d rate Lewis and A.J equal I just think A.J is doing things much faster and no easy fights ,he’s fighting better guys ,Usyk alone would be Lewis second best win and he didn’t actually definitively beat Vitali . A.J has to be a top guy in any era wheather you think he’d win or lose . Usyk is a great fighter he’d probably only lose to Lewis or maybe Mike Tyson in the late 90”s ? Should A.J get by him it certainly puts him in these talks but he’s there already for me , He’s unified in 19 fights and taking far less bad losses then anyone so far .


                      Currently if A.J fought a smart fight I’d say he’d give Bowe ,Lewis ,Holyfield many problems,wheather he wins or not it’s a dangerous fight for all of them .but he should be top 5 somewhere ,he’s just to big skilled and powerful to shrug off as though we didn’t see him blasting guys out in this era and has yet to lose a rematch most fighters runaway from but he gets hate on that to .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-21-2022, 01:45 PM.

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