Andy Ruiz vs George Foreman

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Didn't Foreman beat Chuvalo and Bonavena? He smashed smokin Joe.. Andy gets beat down and stopped inside of 6

Didnt he destroy a joe outta shape who barely got any punches in who didn't have good defense like he used to which mean if he was in shape wouldnt had been destroyed and the match would be different dummy

dumb follower and he never fought Oscar and Chuvalo wasnt the same as a inshape joe or is Andy who is close range and picks shots and uses mutiple punches from angles you dummy who doesn't watch

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STFU troll, you’re only embarrassing yourself by continuing this.

continuing what your talking to me rememeber should i ignore you which shows no respect i can do that and your trolling not me crazy dummy your embarrassed must be why would i be embarrassed by online dumb stuff said to me im not that weak minded idiot see how every dumb thing you say i counter

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

continuing what your talking to me rememeber should i ignore you which shows no respect i can do that and your trolling not me crazy dummy your embarrassed must be why would i be embarrassed by online dumb stuff said to me im not that weak minded idiot see how every dumb thing you say i counter

You definitely failed English class didn’t you?

You don’t even make sense you f***ing cretin.

[Stuart Chandler]

Foreman had a bigger frame than Bruno, those guys you are talking about are all muscle upon muscle. Don't get me wrong Joshua is a super-heavyweight, but his frame is still not as big as Lennox Lewis's or Wladimir Kiltschko's 'Kiltschko was weighing nearly a stone lighter than Joshua when they fought. But side by side, his frame was clearly bigger than Joshua's'.

Most of these body builders you see, in the actual sport of body building are muscle upon muscle 'Some of them are not natural heavyweights' WEIGHT what you weigh does not tell the whole story of size.

Wlad was a natural 220 pounder . He added all that muscle .


Lewis is more naturally framed out and Foreman was the same size as Bruno,was in his early years as Bruno was in his . I don’t even think Foreman looks all that big the way fans talk as if he was a giant ,he wasn’t . Ali was nearly the same size in fact watch their fight .

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Andy went life and death with an ancient Arreola. Foreman destroys him at any stage of his career. We have full blooded ******s here picking Ruiz over Foreman.

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Wlad was a natural 220 pounder . He added all that muscle .


Lewis is more naturally framed out and Foreman was the same size as Bruno,was in his early years as Bruno was in his . I don’t even think Foreman looks all that big the way fans talk as if he was a giant ,he wasn’t . Ali was nearly the same size in fact watch their fight .

Correct Ali was nearly the same size. But what you must remember about the heavyweights from the 70's and before then, and even maybe the heavyweights from the 80's and early 90's. There was not a culture in heavyweight boxing of body building, nobody was actively trying to bulk themselves up.

You get people saying that Usyk was the same size of Muhammad Ali, I don't think he was 'Have you seen Usyk's training? There is a lot of weight lifting, power lifting and body building and everything else which comes with that.

Norton, Frazier, Ali, Foreman all of these fighters trained to get as light and functional as possible. That was the culture back then.

Understand that WEIGHT, you keep mentioning numbers to me. Understand that weight does not explain the whole picture of size. There may be people right now in a gym somewhere body building and drinking all these protein shakes and they are the same size as you 'Are they really the same size as you, no'.

It is all muscle upon, muscle and manufactured. if Usyk trained like those fighters from the 70's, I don't think he would be 221 pounds. Naturally maybe Usyk is a high 190 pounds.

Wladimir Kiltschko had a bigger frame than Joshua, that is what I am pointing out. And you can clearly see that in the video.

Foreman was no giant, but he was still 220 - 224 pounds while training at a time when the culture in boxing was not to bulk yourself up. 224 pounds, is still a solid heavyweight.

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Trolling yourself is odd and is saying dumb stuff others use makes you a follower they mean nothing to me to someone else they might

like you did

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Andy went life and death with an ancient Arreola. Foreman destroys him at any stage of his career. We have full blooded ******s here picking Ruiz over Foreman.

Since your repeating dumb quotes others said

what are you comparing name only idiot your the ****** one arreola is way quicker at hand and a counterer neither one was in george george was way easy to hit with no defense and slow watch matches next time instead of repeating dumb quotes

[QueensburyRules]

- - George age 19 Gold Medal Heavy a natural SuperHeavy had that class existed in the 68 Olympics. Wlad Olympic Gold SuperHeavy like AJ. Usyk Olympic gold medal Heavy. Ali Olympic gold LH, Field Olympic bronze LH.

Wlad gained weight as he aged naturally as all heavies in history supplemented by weightlifting, but neither he nor Vitali were never as flabby as Lewis. It took Ali much longer to crack 200 and by his 220s was flabby. Field ahem, longer still. Foreman was trained down in weight and dehydrated for 15 rd fights, yet still had breached 230 by age 28 when he retired.

With the advent of 12 rd titles and Knockdowns scored, fighters started training up in weight with revolutionary weight lifting techniques.

What else NS Duumberwonders need to know about heavyweights?