Comments Thread For: Wilder: F*** The Money; I'm Most Mad Because Joshua Quit!

[Alan Smithee]

Of course he quit. He is a british heavyweight. Only the naive and gullible believed that Joshua was the real deal. Eddie Hearn knows this and played those chumps like a fiddle! Did you see the look on A.J's face all four times that he got up? He is a joke! His first fight in the states exposed his lack of stamina, lack of heart, lack of chin, and of course lack of balls. What do you expect from the country of cuckolds!

[Mooshashi]

"i'm mad" - wilder


still hasn't said Ruiz's name

Lol If they fight Ruiz will be screaming Whats my name? as he pounds Wilder like Ali did to boxers who still called him Cassius Clay.

[giant_king]

He didn't quit he took a dive.that rematch is next.its funny how joshua pretended he didn't know he had a rematch clause lol

[Boxingfanatic75]

It is interesting reading a good portion of comments on Facebook and on other boxing sites on how Widler is "somehow responsible" for what happened to AJ because he did not take the 3 fight 100 million dollar deal from DAZN. While some fans put the emphasis on the possible money Wilder could have made by signing to DAZN, other fans like myself, and Wilder himself put emphasis on the multi fight deal that came with it. Wilder's camp did say that turning down the deal had to do with what AJ was going to make, but i don't believe that was the totality of why he rejected the deal. Wilder has stated multiple times that he didn't want to be caught up in mutli fight deals which the reason he also turned down ESPN deal. Wilder was banking on getting those fights (Fury and AJ) without signing those deals. He was right at least about the Fury fight as it will be joint venture between Showtime and ESPN. So let's look at what happened after last night had Wilder signed to DAZN.

1) Wilder fights Brezeale while AJ fights Ruiz. And because AJ lost and there is a rematch clause in the contract, that delays the Widler/AJ match.

2) Wilder was NOT going to idle and he would have looked for another match. Ruiz now has the RIGHT to request a voluntary defense of one of this three or all three titles before re engaging with AJ. If the rematch clause stipulates that the "fight must take place immediately" then AJ/Ruiz must do it again right away. Check your local boxing insiders for that info. But Ruiz is granted his request, that's two fights into the deal and. STILL NO AJ. And keep in mind, Ruiz could lose his "voluntary" match which would just make things even uglier.

3) But let's say Ruiz wins his voluntary match, and then he fights AJ again, Wilder would be in the 3rd fight of his contract. AND STILL NO AJ!! And if AJ beats Ruiz, he would have to fave IBF mandatory in Pulev. 3 fights AND STILL NO AJ.

4) The 40 million the DAZN said Wilder would get was based upon fighting AJ. I dont know if that if the contracts states that Wilders money would be lowered if he didnt face AJ. Again, check with your boxing insiders. But rest assure, Wilder would have gotten his guaranteed money but no AJ fight....WHICH IS He wanted WITH the big money.

Great analysis. Let me ask you this however. Do you think Wilder is one of the most “free agent” type boxers we’ve witnessed (minus Mayweather)? You led into what I think is partially the decision “he doesn’t want to get caught up into multi-fight deals.”

My take is that Wilder wants to be his own man, making his own decisions, when, how and where he wants. I firmly believe he is one of the most “free agent” boxers out there. He doesn’t want anyone controlling him and if so extremely limited. A lot of people can’t put their heads around Wilder’s decisions. But to me it makes perfect sense to me because he gets to dictate the terms in which he fights. Not a promoter, not a manager and not a sanctioning body. The hate Wilder crowd throws fits over this because all other boxers (especially AJ) is told when to jump, sleep, eat and *****

[arraamis]

It is interesting reading a good portion of comments on Facebook and on other boxing sites on how Widler is "somehow responsible" for what happened to AJ because he did not take the 3 fight 100 million dollar deal from DAZN. While some fans put the emphasis on the possible money Wilder could have made by signing to DAZN, other fans like myself, and Wilder himself put emphasis on the multi fight deal that came with it. Wilder's camp did say that turning down the deal had to do with what AJ was going to make, but i don't believe that was the totality of why he rejected the deal. Wilder has stated multiple times that he didn't want to be caught up in mutli fight deals which the reason he also turned down ESPN deal. Wilder was banking on getting those fights (Fury and AJ) without signing those deals. He was right at least about the Fury fight as it will be joint venture between Showtime and ESPN. So let's look at what happened after last night had Wilder signed to DAZN.

1) Wilder fights Brezeale while AJ fights Ruiz. And because AJ lost and there is a rematch clause in the contract, that delays the Widler/AJ match.

2) Wilder was NOT going to idle and he would have looked for another match. Ruiz now has the RIGHT to request a voluntary defense of one of this three or all three titles before re engaging with AJ. If the rematch clause stipulates that the "fight must take place immediately" then AJ/Ruiz must do it again right away. Check your local boxing insiders for that info. But Ruiz is granted his request, that's two fights into the deal and. STILL NO AJ. And keep in mind, Ruiz could lose his "voluntary" match which would just make things even uglier.

3) But let's say Ruiz wins his voluntary match, and then he fights AJ again, Wilder would be in the 3rd fight of his contract. AND STILL NO AJ!! And if AJ beats Ruiz, he would have to fave IBF mandatory in Pulev. 3 fights AND STILL NO AJ.

4) The 40 million the DAZN said Wilder would get was based upon fighting AJ. I dont know if that if the contracts states that Wilders money would be lowered if he didnt face AJ. Again, check with your boxing insiders. But rest assure, Wilder would have gotten his guaranteed money but no AJ fight....WHICH IS He wanted WITH the big money.

Good post dude!!!!

Add another wrinkle to your analysis:

The IBF, from what I've read, may insist that Ruiz fights Pulev for their strap immediately. If that's the case, then there goes the unified title match out the window. As there's a diminished profit margin (From the organizations perspective) when there's a unified champ holding all the belts, instead of a diff. Champ holding their own version of a belt.

Something else I read: Wilder's trainer stated that they offered up Ruiz to Wilder for a match years ago, but Wilder declined. Because he knew all about Ruiz, and that he's no joke to fight, in spite of his physical appearance. Apparently, Hearn and AJ didn't get the memo.

[Boxingfanatic75]

They can’t stay salty for long...the got to save face somehow lol

Well you may have a point lol

[YOU WILL LOSE]

How do you feel the day after witnessing your man crush get sacked? I mean Ruiz didn’t just tea bag him in front of thousands, the man potato sacked him.

aj is still the champ in wilder's heart,! he didnt lose to ruiz, he quit!

STILL HASNT SAID RUIZ'S NAME

[Boxingfanatic75]

aj is still the champ in wilder's heart,! he didnt lose to ruiz, he quit!

STILL HASNT SAID RUIZ'S NAME

Hey dummy why would he? There’s a rematch clause and 4 sanctioning bodies that will mandate title defenses against different challengers. By then he’d probably lose. Just face it and take it like a man; your childhood idol isn’t Achilles (or hell maybe he is looking at those wobbly legs).....he lost

[thack]

Joshua was definitely pampered, Hearn basically bought his first title with that joke of a fight against Martin. Martin won the title when his opponent got injured during the match, and then basically sold it to Hearn. Then he fought Klitschko for his other titles. Klitschko already lost the titles to Fury, and was basically over the hill when he fought Joshua. Joshua had to go life and death with an over the hill Klitschko who couldn't pull the trigger when he had Joshua in ***** street.

Very true....I hope he ***s the idiot Hearns off ...when he can , they have put the block on soooo many fights throughout times present and passed...they are not on their own of course!..just like the rest ...WANKERS!

[Boxingfanatic75]

Good post dude!!!!

Add another wrinkle to your analysis:

The IBF, from what I've read, may insist that Ruiz fights Pulev for their strap immediately. If that's the case, then there goes the unified title match out the window. As there's a diminished profit margin (From the organizations perspective) when there's a unified champ holding all the belts, instead of a diff. Champ holding their own version of a belt.

Something else I read: Wilder's trainer stated that they offered up Ruiz to Wilder for a match years ago, but Wilder declined. Because he knew all about Ruiz, and that he's no joke to fight, in spite of his physical appearance. Apparently, Hearn and AJ didn't get the memo.

This is why I HATE the sanctioning bodies and OF COURSE they’d mandate a fighter that isn’t Wilder or isn’t AJ rematch. They want those belts split up. They don’t want to wait for a couple years for their champ to fight his other sanctioning body mandatories before they can then dictate their own. These sanctions bodies are so damn corrupt.