Comments Thread For: Wilder: F*** The Money; I'm Most Mad Because Joshua Quit!

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  • hitking
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    #81
    Originally posted by TX_BOXNG
    Yea I agree, its not an easy win, WilDer is a beast, but if AJ can re gather himself I can see him win just like he was prior to Ruiz, right now is easy to say WilDer wins based off last night
    I always felt AJ would beat Wilder because his skills were superior, plus he had the power to make Wilder pay for his technical mistakes. Which he could still do. But his defense is very leaky and his chin is suspect. And even though Wilder has had a couple anxious moments in his career. His chin and stamina seems to hold up a little better than AJ’s. And based on everything we’ve seen from both. I don’t think AJ makes it through the entire fight against Wilder clean. He’s gonna at some point get tagged. And when he does, I don’t think he’s gonna hold up.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #82
      Originally posted by TX_BOXNG
      Yea I agree, its not an easy win, WilDer is a beast, but if AJ can re gather himself I can see him win just like he was prior to Ruiz, right now is easy to say WilDer wins based off last night




      right now it is REAL easy to say WilDer wins based off last night

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      • MC Hammer
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        #83
        Originally posted by thack
        Wilder lets his self down ,always ...Joshua was done from r.3.Fazed,senses scrabbled ...clueless from there on. And Wilder would have hurt him much more. It's going to be hard for Joshua to rebuild from this but at least unlike Wilder, hammered by Fury he admits he was beaten by the better man.I now hope old Ortiz hammer's him.
        Admits? ***** reality admitted it for him. He didn't concede something that was in dispute. He got his ass whooped and decided he didn't want no more. There was nothing to argue

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        • Detroit29
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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
          Great analysis. Let me ask you this however. Do you think Wilder is one of the most “free agent” type boxers we’ve witnessed (minus Mayweather)? You led into what I think is partially the decision “he doesn’t want to get caught up into multi-fight deals.”

          My take is that Wilder wants to be his own man, making his own decisions, when, how and where he wants. I firmly believe he is one of the most “free agent” boxers out there. He doesn’t want anyone controlling him and if so extremely limited. A lot of people can’t put their heads around Wilder’s decisions. But to me it makes perfect sense to me because he gets to dictate the terms in which he fights. Not a promoter, not a manager and not a sanctioning body. The hate Wilder crowd throws fits over this because all other boxers (especially AJ) is told when to jump, sleep, eat and *****
          This absolutely the way to go for Haymon fighters. Haymon has taken the power from the promoters and given it to the fighters. How many stories have we heard about promoters getting over on fighters? Just look no further than the King/Tyson and Arum/Pac relationships. When a fighter is exclusively tied to a network it makes things harder for fights to get done. Even Hearn understands this as AJ is NOT exclusively tied to DAZN. He does everything on a fight by fight basis. Wilder was not thirsty for money or else he would have jumped all over the ESPN or DAZN deals. As i said above, he was banking on getting those fights without multi fight deals. Now...

          DAZN can still pay AJ, but i doubt it will be what he was getting paid. Hearn said, the long term plan was to sign "long term" to DAZN. But that only happens if AJ got the green strap. At that point, every living soul that wanted AJ would HAVE TO come to DAZN and there would be no joint ventures of any kind. Now that's out the door...at least for now

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          • BoxingSensei
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            #85
            Not only he steals Amir Khan's wife, but also Khan's chin.

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            • sofreshhh
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              #86
              The LDBC has officially arrived.

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              • Detroit29
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                #87
                Originally posted by arraamis
                Good post dude!!!!

                Add another wrinkle to your analysis:

                The IBF, from what I've read, may insist that Ruiz fights Pulev for their strap immediately. If that's the case, then there goes the unified title match out the window. As there's a diminished profit margin (From the organizations perspective) when there's a unified champ holding all the belts, instead of a diff. Champ holding their own version of a belt.

                Something else I read: Wilder's trainer stated that they offered up Ruiz to Wilder for a match years ago, but Wilder declined. Because he knew all about Ruiz, and that he's no joke to fight, in spite of his physical appearance. Apparently, Hearn and AJ didn't get the memo.
                Good Wrinkle to add because the IBF came right after Fury the second he beat Wlad. He couldn't even enjoy getting the title. But i believe that pressure came from Duva as well as she immediately sprung into action to get her fighter Glazkov a title. I wouldn't be shocked if the IBF did this. As far as Wilder goes, No shock there either when it came to fighting Ruiz. I think now Wilder would use play the big boy game and not be like AJ trying to exchange.

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                • JeromyM
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                  #88
                  I must say I gave Ruiz a chance because I’ve watched him for years and know he can box. Joshua is just too slow for Andy. He’s the fastest heavyweight on the planet. Especially with combinations.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by andocom
                    You said "Of course he quit hes a british HW", which is such a ****** thing to say after Fury against Wilder 2 fights ago. I'm not even from the UK but your posts are so bad its painful to read.



                    yea, calling all brits quitters is pretty bad

                    they got some real hard nuts over there

                    I think AJ probably has a lot of heart, but everything unraveled for him last night

                    it is real easy to talk shlt from ringside

                    I would love to be there during their de-brief..... that would be a real interesting Q/A session

                    AJ will be back..... you can see it

                    he was super-classy after the fight, and he is saying all the right things

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                    • Oldskoolg
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      right now it is REAL easy to say WilDer wins based off last night
                      Lol classic lol

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