Let's Clear Some Myths and Nonsense........

[KingHippo]

Wilder very well may be able to take the punishment Joshua dishes. Or he may not. That's why they need to fight and find out who the better fighter is.

You're totally right. That's why I always thought pointing at Wilder's sometimes unpolished technique as an indication that he would have no chance against Joshua because of his technical superiority was funny. Especially when considering how Joshua's glaring flaws would compound against Wilder's strengths.

But if you want to take "vindication" for Ruiz proving Joshua was hype? Then be my guest. But beating the likes of Parker, Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte shows to me he is more than just hype. Is he great? No, I don't think so. But definitely top level.

Him losing in such a humiliating fashion to Ruiz was definitely proof he was a hype job. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[KTFOKING]

You're totally right. That's why I always thought pointing at Wilder's sometimes unpolished technique as an indication that he would have no chance against Joshua because of his technical superiority was funny. Especially when considering how Joshua's glaring flaws would compound against Wilder's strengths.



Him losing in such a humiliating fashion to Ruiz was definitely proof he was a hype job. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Trust me, I'm not the one embarrassing myself here.

Once again, if you held him to such a pedestal where you thought he was an ATG, then sure he is a hype job. But anyone with common sense knew he was very good yet vulnerable. If he was a complete hype job than he wouldn't have beat the guys I listed.

[Fanofreason]

Terrible biased post.

Joshua is not very good. This was not a top 10 HW, that dominated him. Ruiz was in no ones Top 10.

AJ turned away and walked to corner, staring at his corner. Ref gave him 24 seconds from Knockdown before waving off the fight. AJ quit without saying I quit.

AJ is now Victor Ortiz.

AJ does not even have basic boxing skills. Watch him drop his right hand when he jobs. Good god, with his jaw any counter puncher with power ends him.

He is done and has been exposed.

[KTFOKING]

Brook definitely quit, he literally took a knee and refused to fight on. I get he was injured and that but Malignaggi had that exact same injury and fought for 9/10 rounds against Miguel Cotto in a fight he had no chance of turning around. Some fighters have that you’ll have to kill me to beat me mentality some just don’t. As an average person Brook made the right call as there’s more to life than boxing, but as a fighter he done what no true fighter does and quit.

Yeah Ruiz has much more natural fighting instinct, he got hurt and came straight back at AJ, whilst AJ looked completely lost once he got buzzed. It reminded me a bit of Frank Bruno. He just looked like a rabbit in the headlights and his confidence just drained out of him. I’m a little worried for AJ, I can’t stand a lot of his fans but as for him personally I just hope this defeat doesn’t scar him mentally. His post fight interview and presser were strange IMO, he looked a little vacant as if the defeat hadn’t even sunk in. He was talking about other fights when he should be demanding that rematch to avenge his first career defeat. Gonna be interesting to see how he responds.

We will see soon enough how he handles the loss and how he comes back. Don't want to make any guesses as they are just that...guesses.

See, I thought Spence beat the fight out of Brook and he was broken both mentally and physically. He gave it a go to start the 11th round with that nice combination he landed, but Spence took it like nothing and got right back on top of him. After that more of the same continued and Brook had no shot at winning. I was fine with what he did there.

[Jax teller]

I said it was a vindication for those who could actually see Joshua for what he was beyond the hype.

And your original comment was that Joshua could easily hurt AND ko Wilder. While he could hurt him, knocking him out certainly won't be easy since he could very well be taking a nap before he gets there. Wilder has proved he can take punishment similar to what Joshua can inflict, Joshua was knocked down 4 times by a fighter with less power than Wilder. Can you see the problem there?

And this is not an unofficial win for Wilder, just confirmation that Joshua is overrated and that Wilder not only can beat him despite his limitations, but is actually now the official favorite to win.

Learn how to read.



That made absolutely no sense at all.

Schoniers dropped Wilder, Ortiz couldn't with his best punches, AJ definitely more way powerful than Schoniers, Ortiz is lacking. Simple enough. Plus there's sparring stories about Wilder just like AJ.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

We will see soon enough how he handles the loss and how he comes back. Don't want to make any guesses as they are just that...guesses.

See, I thought Spence beat the fight out of Brook and he was broken both mentally and physically. He gave it a go to start the 11th round with that nice combination he landed, but Spence took it like nothing and got right back on top of him. After that more of the same continued and Brook had no shot at winning. I was fine with what he did there.

In the case of Brook it depends whether your comparing to his peers or to the average person. As 99% of fighters would have continued but 99% of human beings would have refused to continue.

[KingHippo]

Trust me, I'm not the one embarrassing myself here.

Once again, if you held him to such a pedestal where you thought he was an ATG, then sure he is a hype job. But anyone with common sense knew he was very good yet vulnerable. If he was a complete hype job than he wouldn't have beat the guys I listed.

No he wasn't. He was seen as the best heavyweight by most and a long shot for Wilder. Never had him as an ATG, saw his glaring flaws from day one. The fact that most thought Ruiz was a no hoper was off of pure hype. Even I fell for it. Never thought I would be so right.

And excuse me, but who the **** is Dillyan Whyte???

[KingHippo]

Schoniers dropped Wilder, Ortiz couldn't with his best punches, AJ definitely more way powerful than Schoniers, Ortiz is lacking. Simple enough. Plus there's sparring stories about Wilder just like AJ.

You're actually proving my point with that Ortiz bull**** you idiot. Sconiers got a shot. Cool. Now what happened to him? Fury was dropped by Cunnignham, remember? So by your "logic", he should've never been able to get up from Wilder's shots, right? RIGHT???

[Jax teller]

You're actually proving my point with that Ortiz bull**** you idiot. Sconiers got a shot. Cool. Now what happened to him? Fury was dropped by Cunnignham, remember? So by your "logic", he should've never been able to get up from Wilder's shots, right? RIGHT???

No the point is AJ can do way more damage than Schoniers and Ortiz didn't even manage that with his best shots. Fury's got nothing to do with this. The big difference is we've seen Wilder downed and what that takes which Ortiz couldn't do but we've never seen Fury not get back up so don't know what that takes yet.... "Idiot"

[KingHippo]

No the point is AJ can do way more damage than Schoniers and Ortiz didn't even manage that with his best shots. Fury's got nothing to do with this. The big difference is we've seen Wilder downed and what that takes which Ortiz couldn't do but we've never seen Fury not get back up so don't know what that takes yet.... "Idiot"

Yeah, definitely a r€tard. Wasting my time here.