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  • Let's Clear Some Myths and Nonsense........

    1. Ruiz did not get this fight because Wilder turned it down. It didn't come from the back of Wilder. Everyone keeps saying Wilder should have just taken the $100 million deal from DAZN and he could have been the one to stop Joshua. WRONG! Even if Wilder took the DAZN deal, his first fight was going to be against Breazeale and Joshua was going to fight Miller. Of course Miller failed his drug tests so Ruiz stepped in. So no, this result didn't happen because Wilder turned down that deal. It was going to happen regardless.

    2. Some how this Ruiz win is an unofficial win for Wilder. Really? i mean could he have stopped Joshua and will he stop him if/when they fight? Sure, but Joshua could very easily hurt and stop Wilder as well. Ruiz has a super legit chin and was able to eat Joshua's best shots and return with his own fire. No guarantee Wilder is able to do the same. Only ONE person deserves credit for the win and that is Ruiz.

    3. I only saw one person state this, or maybe it could have been a few others, but it was said that this was a terrible stoppage? Absolutely not. Joshua was completely finished and dazed. He spit out his mouthpiece and then turned his back to Ruiz/ref. You can't be doing that especially after the 4th time you have been dropped. Joshua was spent mentally and physically. His gas tank was on empty and he was on shaky legs. The ref saved a potential terrible moment for Joshua by stopping it when he did.

    4. This one kind of goes back to #3, but obviously there are a lot of people saying Joshua quit. I didn't see that at all. I saw a man that was finished and had nothing left. He wasn't steady and had no more energy to give. If he wanted to quit, he could have just stayed down after the last KD but he kept getting up. And when the ref asked him if he was okay, he told him yes. Joshua has been rocked numerous times in his career and has responded. This was no quit job, just a man that got his sh^t pushed in and was dazed and out of it.

    5. Joshua vs Wilder is dead and there goes 100M down the drain!!! There was a bunch of that said for Mayweather vs Pacquiao after the Marquez KO, but how did that end up working out? The potential fight could be dead if both fighters don't handle their business next but if they win their next two fights, it's back being this huge mega showdown. If Joshua beats Ruiz in a rematch and then beats say Whyte or Pulev and Wilder beats Ortiz and Fury, you can't tell me there wouldn't be MAJOR demand for this fight.

    6. Boxing lost out in a major way with Joshua's loss. Ha! That's laughable. Initial reaction is the Joshua vs Wilder fight is done, but in reality maybe those two were never really the top dogs in the first place. Yesterday's main event was awesome for boxing and had the whole world talking. The top five trends on twitter in the states were Joshua, Ruiz, Wilder, Fury and JoshuaRuiz for a good bit after the fight. Ruiz won over a lot of fans and now Joshua gets his chance at redemption for the rematch. If he comes back and shows his championship mettle? Then that only adds to his legacy.

  • #2
    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
    1. Ruiz did not get this fight because Wilder turned it down. It didn't come from the back of Wilder. Everyone keeps saying Wilder should have just taken the $100 million deal from DAZN and he could have been the one to stop Joshua. WRONG! Even if Wilder took the DAZN deal, his first fight was going to be against Breazeale and Joshua was going to fight Miller. Of course Miller failed his drug tests so Ruiz stepped in. So no, this result didn't happen because Wilder turned down that deal. It was going to happen regardless.

    2. Some how this Ruiz win is an unofficial win for Wilder. Really? i mean could he have stopped Joshua and will he stop him if/when they fight? Sure, but Joshua could very easily hurt and stop Wilder as well. Ruiz has a super legit chin and was able to eat Joshua's best shots and return with his own fire. No guarantee Wilder is able to do the same. Only ONE person deserves credit for the win and that is Ruiz.

    3. I only saw one person state this, or maybe it could have been a few others, but it was said that this was a terrible stoppage? Absolutely not. Joshua was completely finished and dazed. He spit out his mouthpiece and then turned his back to Ruiz/ref. You can't be doing that especially after the 4th time you have been dropped. Joshua was spent mentally and physically. His gas tank was on empty and he was on shaky legs. The ref saved a potential terrible moment for Joshua by stopping it when he did.

    4. This one kind of goes back to #3, but obviously there are a lot of people saying Joshua quit. I didn't see that at all. I saw a man that was finished and had nothing left. He wasn't steady and had no more energy to give. If he wanted to quit, he could have just stayed down after the last KD but he kept getting up. And when the ref asked him if he was okay, he told him yes. Joshua has been rocked numerous times in his career and has responded. This was no quit job, just a man that got his sh^t pushed in and was dazed and out of it.

    5. Joshua vs Wilder is dead and there goes 100M down the drain!!! There was a bunch of that said for Mayweather vs Pacquiao after the Marquez KO, but how did that end up working out? The potential fight could be dead if both fighters don't handle their business next but if they win their next two fights, it's back being this huge mega showdown. If Joshua beats Ruiz in a rematch and then beats say Whyte or Pulev and Wilder beats Ortiz and Fury, you can't tell me there wouldn't be MAJOR demand for this fight.

    6. Boxing lost out in a major way with Joshua's loss. Ha! That's laughable. Initial reaction is the Joshua vs Wilder fight is done, but in reality maybe those two were never really the top dogs in the first place. Yesterday's main event was awesome for boxing and had the whole world talking. The top five trends on twitter in the states were Joshua, Ruiz, Wilder, Fury and JoshuaRuiz for a good bit after the fight. Ruiz won over a lot of fans and now Joshua gets his chance at redemption for the rematch. If he comes back and shows his championship mettle? Then that only adds to his legacy.
    this is a good post

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    • #3
      giphy

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      • #4
        Excellent post. This should be stickied

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        • #5
          Great post. I completely agree with all points apart from #4, it wasn’t a blatant quit like a “no mas” but AJ clearly wanted out, as you said turning his back on the referee and also making little attempt to suggest he wanted to continue. He was done and he knew it.

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          • #6
            Says all that needs to be said about this site that this post/thread got pushed all the way to page 3 already.

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            • #7
              I can tell you are a boxing fan. Huge props for telling it how it is with no agenda!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                1. Ruiz did not get this fight because Wilder turned it down. It didn't come from the back of Wilder. Everyone keeps saying Wilder should have just taken the $100 million deal from DAZN and he could have been the one to stop Joshua. WRONG! Even if Wilder took the DAZN deal, his first fight was going to be against Breazeale and Joshua was going to fight Miller. Of course Miller failed his drug tests so Ruiz stepped in. So no, this result didn't happen because Wilder turned down that deal. It was going to happen regardless.

                2. Some how this Ruiz win is an unofficial win for Wilder. Really? i mean could he have stopped Joshua and will he stop him if/when they fight? Sure, but Joshua could very easily hurt and stop Wilder as well. Ruiz has a super legit chin and was able to eat Joshua's best shots and return with his own fire. No guarantee Wilder is able to do the same. Only ONE person deserves credit for the win and that is Ruiz.

                3. I only saw one person state this, or maybe it could have been a few others, but it was said that this was a terrible stoppage? Absolutely not. Joshua was completely finished and dazed. He spit out his mouthpiece and then turned his back to Ruiz/ref. You can't be doing that especially after the 4th time you have been dropped. Joshua was spent mentally and physically. His gas tank was on empty and he was on shaky legs. The ref saved a potential terrible moment for Joshua by stopping it when he did.

                4. This one kind of goes back to #3, but obviously there are a lot of people saying Joshua quit. I didn't see that at all. I saw a man that was finished and had nothing left. He wasn't steady and had no more energy to give. If he wanted to quit, he could have just stayed down after the last KD but he kept getting up. And when the ref asked him if he was okay, he told him yes. Joshua has been rocked numerous times in his career and has responded. This was no quit job, just a man that got his sh^t pushed in and was dazed and out of it.

                5. Joshua vs Wilder is dead and there goes 100M down the drain!!! There was a bunch of that said for Mayweather vs Pacquiao after the Marquez KO, but how did that end up working out? The potential fight could be dead if both fighters don't handle their business next but if they win their next two fights, it's back being this huge mega showdown. If Joshua beats Ruiz in a rematch and then beats say Whyte or Pulev and Wilder beats Ortiz and Fury, you can't tell me there wouldn't be MAJOR demand for this fight.

                6. Boxing lost out in a major way with Joshua's loss. Ha! That's laughable. Initial reaction is the Joshua vs Wilder fight is done, but in reality maybe those two were never really the top dogs in the first place. Yesterday's main event was awesome for boxing and had the whole world talking. The top five trends on twitter in the states were Joshua, Ruiz, Wilder, Fury and JoshuaRuiz for a good bit after the fight. Ruiz won over a lot of fans and now Joshua gets his chance at redemption for the rematch. If he comes back and shows his championship mettle? Then that only adds to his legacy.
                I agree with mostly everything you said the only thing i dont agree with is the fact that you said Joshua would have had a chance at ko ing Wilder.
                Wilder has proven his chin is on the lvl of Ruiz and I truly belive Deontay Wilder would have Lewis Rahman 2 Joshua flat on his back last night

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                • #9
                  Very good post. Dude you need a newspaper column

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Blue54 View Post
                    I agree with mostly everything you said the only thing i dont agree with is the fact that you said Joshua would have had a chance at ko ing Wilder.
                    Wilder has proven his chin is on the lvl of Ruiz and I truly belive Deontay Wilder would have Lewis Rahman 2 Joshua flat on his back last night
                    I do think Joshua would have had a chance to put out Wilder. Ruiz has a great chin and had never been dropped in his career as a pro or amateur I believe and Joshua had him down in the 3rd. Probably a better chance Wilder puts Joshua down since he would have taken more chances and eventually landed. Still, far from a sure bet that Wilder runs through Joshua.

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