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Originally posted by Mooshashi View PostLet's take a rational look at all four (lol) Joshua knockdowns
Numbers 1,2, and 3: He gets up, puts his gloves up and in front of his face. Ref asks him to "come to me" and Joshua takes a couple steps towards him all three times, although after the third knockdown he raised up his eyebrows for whatever reason.
Number 4:AJ spits out his mouthpiece. Joshua gets up, turns his back to the ref and walks slowly towards the corner as instructed by the ref and looking to his corner for aid, advice, encouragement, whatever. He then turns around, and breathing heavily put his arms on the ropes. DOES NOT raise his gloves like the three other times. Ref is yelling at him to turn around. Ref asks if he is "ready to box" TWICE. Joshua mumbles yes or I'm ready, then, looking down, says "yes" again. Ref waves off the fight. Joshua says "What" then doesn't argue about it.
Good stoppage. The fighter was looking for a way to end it, hoping the ref would help.
Watch some Joe Calzaghe UK fights, then tell me this was a BS stoppage in comparison.
These are the facts of what actually happened because I've got the fight on right now. What you're talking about I don't know because the ref on KD 1 and 3 did not ask AJ to walk forward. Watch again and see if you care about facts.
AJ was tired, but he wasn't quitting nor looking for a way out. That's fantasy.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostNo, you can't walk to the corner to gather yourself after you've been knocked down. You get up, the ref tells you to raise your hands, he checks the sturdiness, wipes off your gloves and tells you to fight. The way Ruiz did when he was knocked down.
AJ got up. Turned around and went to his corner and said something to his corner then rested on the ropes. It was 20 seconds from the time the of the knockdown until the fight was called off.
AJ doing that was just him having a word with himself and asking how the f3ck this happened. He was sighing walking to the corner. You may not like it, but it's no reason to stop the fight. It was just a spur of the moment reaction. He wasn't doing it because he wanted out. He's been down so was just gathering himself.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View PostWrong. The ref does not ask AJ to walk to him after the first KD. The second one he does. The 3rd KD was basically AJ being pulled down from the back of his neck and not from a shot. The ref again doesn't ask him to walk forward but asks him to put his gloves up. The 4th KD was AJ being pulled down again and not from a clean shot. Then comes AJ in the corner when the ref asks if he wants to fight With AJ nodding his head and saying yes. The ref after a few seconds more stops the fight. The ref did not ask him to put his gloves up like he did with another KD, nor did he ask him to walk forward. He asked if he was alright and AJ answered him yes because that was the only question he was asking him.
These are the facts of what actually happened because I've got the fight on right now. What you're talking about I don't know because the ref on KD 1 and 3 did not ask AJ to walk forward. Watch again and see if you care about facts.
AJ was tired, but he wasn't quitting nor looking for a way out. That's fantasy.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View PostWhy can't you walk to the corner? Is there a rule to show me where you can't?
AJ doing that was just him having a word with himself and asking how the f3ck this happened. He was sighing walking to the corner. You may not like it, but it's no reason to stop the fight. It was just a spur of the moment reaction. He wasn't doing it because he wanted out. He's been down so was just gathering himself.You can't call timeout in boxing. Look at the first 3 knockdowns. He gets up and follows the refs instructions. He doesn't walk to the corner. You can't just say **** it I'm taking more than my allotted 10 seconds.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostYou can't call timeout in boxing. Look at the first 3 knockdowns. He gets up and follows the refs instructions. He doesn't walk to the corner. You can't just say **** it I'm taking more than my allotted 10 seconds.
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postits hilarious watching sid the kid in full meltdown....its also kind of sad at the same time...i dunno...im torn
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