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    #101
    Ok, so Wilder is not actively pursuing being undisputed, not pursuing putting his closest rivals to bed, not pursuing putting his name at the end of that question to the general public - who is the heavyweight champion?

    Everything on hold. eff this generation of heavyweights, they all suck. They're all putting boxing to shame.

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      #102
      Originally posted by justinussery87
      Wilder flipped the script. Joshua is desperate now and needs a big fight. Not so fun when the rabbit's got the gun huh?
      He's doing his part along with the rest of them to put the history of boxing to shame.

      There is something bigger than petty schoolyard politics. Though admittedly this forum may make some believe that childish politics is actually a worthwhile and valid part of life or boxing.

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        #103
        Originally posted by The tucker
        I seriously think this fight won’t won’t happen because one of them will get KTFO.

        when will these fighters realize just because Floyd and manny who were juggernauts who fought down the line after one lost/got KTFO it still had big demand when they fight that won’t be the case with them.
        I agree, they are all pissing time away at the expense of everyone else. It's the most shameful avoidance by the belt holders to face eachother in the history.
        The brands are now more important than boxing itself. it's embarrassing.

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        • juggernaut666
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          #104
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Wilder: "I knew none of these major fights were going to happen this year, because I'm fighting Ortiz in Sept. And who else is fighting Ortiz? Nobody, because he's fighting me in Sept. So that's why I'm fighting Ortiz instead of AJ"

          To the retards Wilder is aiming this crap at, it all makes perfect retarded sense!
          Wow Wilder has reached a new level of ******ity or should I say his fans that ride with that statement of Ortiz. This is like reaching a level that should be impossible.

          At this point his fans need to be slapped or punched in the face they're so ****** . lol

          To use Ortiz as the reason why the fights not happening and AJ hasnt even fought Ruiz yet to even discuss a Wilder fight afterwards .Boy did Wilder grab Ortiz as a shield though before AJ could call him out tommorow

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            #105
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            You know what's even funnier. His fantasy numbers average less money per fight than DAZN offered and the DAZN money was guaranteed. So even with his fantasy numbers Wilder made a bad decision.
            There is nothing more to say to this. You have said it all.

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              #106
              We know why he passed on AJ, he's completely terrified of getting destroyed. There is no need for Wilder to continue lying, to continue humiliating himself like he's been doing........doesn't he have at least the tiniest modicum of self-respect?

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                #107
                Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
                I admire how committed you are to backing Wilder but a couple of questions...

                Do you really think that Wilder would commit to a undisputed showdown with Joshua without a rematch clause? That's what he was screaming about last year that was missing from one of Hearn's original offers.

                You know DAZN approached Wilder because of his comments about not being signed to any platform, right?

                You also know that Joshua nor Eddie Hearn were directly involved in the $100m offer negotiations, right?

                I think you are overestimating how many people are going to watch Wilder v Ortiz 2. I cannot see how Wilder is going to earn anywhere close to $100m...ever. He's 33, nearly 34 when he fights Ortiz again. He'll retire before making that kind of money.

                If Wilder's comment about 'knowing the big fights weren't going to happen this year' isn't enough to make you stop and wonder why he knows that, then I worry for you man.
                Actually I am not committed to backing Wilder only to backing reality. Wilder had concerns about the two DAZN offers. Venues, referees, judges, etc. His concerns were never addressed further reinforcing the point that the offers were either bogus or so one sided that Wilder had to decline them. Should he have signed and sold his soul like Marvin Hagler did against Leonard? Marv was so confident that he would win that he caved to all of Leonard's demands (size of the ring, size of the gloves, hand picked judges) Big mistake as it turned out! Wilder was never offered a legitimate one fight deal. Never!

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Look at Wilders numbers, Joshua isn't a big draw in the US either.

                  Anybody can come up with unrealistic numbers like you. It'll make 5 billion.

                  Hearn didn't make the offer, DAZN did. DAZN was willing to overpay because they're just starting out and want to build subs.
                  5 billion? Big difference between that number and 150 mil. If both guys keep winning a Joshua/Wilder fight late in 2020 fight can realistically generate huge numbers. You have doubts? Time will tell!

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                  • Alan Smithee
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    And you do know all the details because you have seen the contract, yeah?

                    And Wilder must have told personally about his concerns about the judges, referees, etc, because he never said anything about that in public.

                    Stop making up excuses for him!
                    Some of us actually follow boxing enough to know people in the industry! Some get their info from the internet only. Those are the clowns like you! Wilder HAD concerns about both DAZN details and his concerns were never addressed. Wilder never said anything about it in public?
                    keep googling clownie man. I respect my sources. Some have been involved in the game since the 60's!

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                    • kafkod
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Brettcappe
                      Some of us actually follow boxing enough to know people in the industry! Some get their info from the internet only. Those are the clowns like you! Wilder HAD concerns about both DAZN details and his concerns were never addressed. Wilder never said anything about it in public?
                      keep googling clownie man. I respect my sources. Some have been involved in the game since the 60's!
                      You're full of ****.

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