Is Luis Ortiz a dud opponent at this point?

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  • STREET CLEANER
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    #91
    Ortiz is a solid fighter but after the Wilder loss he has no good notable wins. I don't know why this is even getting made.

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    • LacedUp
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      #92
      Originally posted by Cutthroat
      Ortiz didn't start getting dropped by David Price level opponents when he was busted & he kept his power unlike Pedvetkin.

      Pedvetkin's resume & performances have been trash, you can't even name an impressive performance or a single top 5 fighter he has beaten since like 2008 in Chambers who was going life and death with guys like Brock.
      Yeah you're right, unlike Ortiz who's been beating top 5 opponents his entire career

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        #93
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Yeah you're right, unlike Ortiz who's been beating top 5 opponents his entire career
        Jennings was top 5 and ranked lower than anybody Pedvetkin has ever beaten. Furthermore Ortiz did it easily.

        Takam? Pedvetkin had to come back after being out boxed.

        Huck? Almost beat him, achieved nothing at HW.

        Chagaev? Nearly lost.

        Perez? Drunk in the ring.

        Klitschko? Blown out.

        AJ? Knocked out.



        But hey, he managed to beat Eddie Chambers convincingly 11 years ago who could barely beat Calvin Brock.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Cutthroat
          Jennings was top 5 and ranked lower than anybody Pedvetkin has ever beaten. Furthermore Ortiz did it easily.

          Takam? Pedvetkin had to come back after being out boxed.

          Huck? Almost beat him, achieved nothing at HW.

          Chagaev? Nearly lost.

          Perez? Drunk in the ring.

          Klitschko? Blown out.

          AJ? Knocked out.



          But hey, he managed to beat Eddie Chambers convincingly 11 years ago who could barely beat Calvin Brock.
          You're right, Ortiz and Jennings are beasts and their resumes are far better than Povetkins. Top 5 after top 5 heavyweights have fallen in the hands of these two giants of the heavyweight division.

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            #95
            Originally posted by leeroy84
            Are you suggesting he is getting more than $7m to fight Wilder??

            Because, IMHO, $7m for Ortizn't is very overpaid.

            Luis' quack is almost as loud as Widlers
            So hearn doesn't want to make the fight with King Kong but D.Wilder /Ortiz can make the fight? Think about that..team aj don't have much confidence in aj….LOL

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              #96
              Originally posted by j.razor
              So hearn doesn't want to make the fight with King Kong but D.Wilder /Ortiz can make the fight? Think about that..team aj don't have much confidence in aj….LOL
              WTF did i just read???

              You do know hearn offered Ortiz $7m right????
              Big bad Wilder so scary Ortiz wants him again for less than a 3rd of the AJ fight.... priceless

              Lol though, was it dark in your cave
              Last edited by leeroy84; 05-31-2019, 01:49 PM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                You're right, Ortiz and Jennings are beasts and their resumes are far better than Povetkins. Top 5 after top 5 heavyweights have fallen in the hands of these two giants of the heavyweight division.
                Tried to tell you dawg

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Tried to tell you dawg
                  How did the fight make you right? Haha

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    How did the fight make you right? Haha
                    Ruiz's resume is worse than almost all of them.

                    You've been overrating and underrating the wrong guys, whatever you think is right is wrong and vice versa.

                    AJs career defining win is over a guy that struggled against the guy Ortiz destroyed & Fury schooled.

                    Wilder also nearly beat the guy that schooled Wlad & beat Ortiz & Stiverne.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      Ruiz's resume is worse than almost all of them.

                      You've been overrating and underrating the wrong guys, whatever you think is right is wrong and vice versa.

                      AJs career defining win is over a guy that struggled against the guy Ortiz destroyed & Fury schooled.

                      Wilder also nearly beat the guy that schooled Wlad & beat Ortiz & Stiverne.
                      Wait.. do you think it was Wilder who beat AJ? 😂😂

                      Wilder didn’t want it.

                      It should have been him but he scheduled three fights ahead of this.

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