If AJ batters and brutally stops Wilder, is there any need for Fury-Wilder II?

[W1LL]

Just a thought. Personally I don't think there would be a need for a Fury-Wilder rematch, could even see Wilder retiring off the payday.

The fights I really want to see are AJ-Fury and AJ-Wilder. If we get AJ-Wilder first, I would be happy with Fury vs. Rivas/Whyte winner in the meantime.

Fury-Wilder II is only really relevant if AJ-Wilder can't be made, as AJ and Hearn seem dead set on only fighting Fury after they've fought Wilder. If we aren't getting AJ-Wilder til 2020+, then Fury-Wilder makes sense in the meantime.

[_Rexy_]

Styles make fights, all three fights need to happen regardless of who beats who.

[BangEM]

I doubt Wilder will fight Josh before Fury.

But if Josh batters him and spark him out (like I expect him to do), Wilder will still fight Fury for a cheque. However, I doubt Fury would give him 50/50 if that happens because once he loses his belt, he’d be more or less useless. The guy isn’t just a draw.

[Zelda]

Losing is not the end of the world.

Else, we would have Ali retire post Ali-Frazier I and not get to see Ali-Foreman. Tyson retire after Tyson-Douglas and not see Tyson-Holified and Tyson-Lewis, etc. But I think Wilder-Fury will happen first because there is a will from both sides. A loss would (or at least should) mean getting back to the drawing board, working harder, and coming back with even more determination. Sure it will be more difficult for Wilder than Fury (due to age and character).

The fights with AJ, whether Wilder or Fury, are more difficult due to his "A-side" arrogance and also because of Eddie Hearn.

[Joe Gans Louis]

Neither is Fury. His numbers will absolutely suck at ESPN. I like Fury but the fights he's going to make without AJ, Wilder, Whyte, or Ortiz are a joke.

No one in America are talking about his fight at all. AJ vs Ruiz isnt getting any coverage on any American platforms.
Just because Wilders number against Breazele were great doesnt mean he isnt popular.

Somehing you blokes need to realize is that we have a sports league in America named the NBA. The same nighrtWilder was fighting the most popular team in American sports not named the Patriots (Golden State Warriors) was on at the same time in the US.

Im sorry but If AJ was boxing at the same time as most UKer's favorite football/soccer team had a match his ratings would be low.
He could be fighting Jesus and you wankers would tune in to your favorite football team without hesitation.

AJ and Furys US numbers will be in the 200-300K range because their opponents are not respected by the public. I cant speak on the UK numbers but I do know that Fury wasnt much of draw in the UK before the tainted Wlad win.

Not defeating Wilder and getting knocked on his can twice isnt going to make him a national hero.
As much as the Wilder detractors try to doubt him the Hwy Division revolves around Wilder.

Wilder vs Fury./Wilder vs Ortiz is the reason big money is being offered for fights now. The purse's being offered to fighters has increased 2-3 fold since that fight.

AJ has done nothing but collect belts and hasnt done much to raise the profile of the division. His fight against Wlad raised his profile but with Fury beating him 2 years earlier AJ cant claim he dethroned the King of the division.

His fight vs Miller would have given him some credibility in the US because of Millers marketing of the fight. But AJ isnt a global star like Ali or Tyson where he can sell out venues in Africa or Japan let alone the US. He's strictly a UK star at this point.

All his fights in the US have been viewed by 500K people or less. The 800k+ who viewed Wilders fight doesnt seem bad when you put it in the proper context.

Lets judge the US ratings when AJ and Fury fight next. Wilder vs the NBA playoffs got 800k+ to view. When Fury and AJ do considerably less, all this sill talk of Wilder getting 50% of the purse will go away.

If they do half the ratings as Wilder without the NBA as competition then there is no Effing way they deserve half of the US money.

How about AJ/Fury get all the UK income and Wilder gets all the US. Seeing that the US is 5 times as big as the UK I feel thats fair. 50/50 spilt on worldwide income.

Let the UK fighters get their money for building the UK fan base and Wilder get the US for building up America.

Fury and AJ numbers in America have always been in the dirt so its proper business for them to have to actually attract fans in the US before they get a piece of the pie that Wilder has built.

If Wilder I tell those guys take it or leave it or fight on your own in the US. Lets see what Fury vs AJ does in Vegas. Lets see if they can earn on their own in the US before they get a piece of Deontay's American pie.

[Robbie Barrett]

If Fury wasn't robbed there wouldn't be half the interest in Joshua-Wilder.

[Cracaphat]

But the dragging out is risking the fights losing their luster when they actually happen,like the aforementioned May-Pac,Tyson-Lewis fights. The three need to stop frontin' and start fighting real opponents,like in themselves.They're trying to do the Mayweather experience of protecting their '0's,but that will leave question marks by the end of their careers.If their careers ended tomorrow,none of the three would or should get in the H.O.F.

[HeadShots]

Fury beat him by armpunching his gloves and making funny faces.

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[W1LL]

Fury beat him by armpunching his gloves and making funny faces.

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[LacedUp]

Why not? If Wilder smashes AJ, I'd still like to see AJ vs Fury.

This is the heavyweight division, things happen at the top level.