If AJ batters and brutally stops Wilder, is there any need for Fury-Wilder II?

[DaNeutral.]

Any combination of these 3 is good with me, the styles of all 3 make for interesting clashes. I also rate tham all highly enough that i could see any of them beating any of them and losing to them in a rematch.

[Joe Gans Louis]

But AJ's fight is selling 4X wilders fight in his debut fight and am very confident he will rake in more views than wilder. So what exactly are you talking about?

I appreciate you contributions with respect to this issue but to be honest, popularity is not rated by number of views alone, the most important index is the number of ppv the fighter is able accrue over time.

Wilder is neither a ppv fighter both in the states and outside. Hez still unknown as well.

If I can watch your fights on YouTube but I can't pay to watch it on ppv, that's not popularity.

Keep it straight...AJ will have a far more higher gates than wilder. That's where popularity comes in....

I can be AJ do more numbers than wilder in the state despite being his debut fight.

Wilder is no match for AJ in popularity both in the states and outside. I can challenge you to that.

This is where we disagree. I cant gage how popular Wilder is in the UK or Worldwide. The great thing for AJ is that DAZN gives AJ great exposure worldwide. The bad thing is that he gets little in the US unless Wilder name comes up.

This site says it all. I dont pay attention to bravado, just results. Being popular and well know are two different things.

Hitler was very well know but he wasnt very popular. As history shows you dont need to be popular to have a people follow your every word.

With AJ being on DAZN there isnt a very equitable way to measure viewership on America.

I dont know if your from America but Hockey games sells out frequently and they charge the most per game besides Football.

Yet Hockey players and Teams dont make the money or get the ratings of the NBA whos fans are more conditioned to watch at home. This inst just a money thing.

Most people of color rather watch at a local neighborhood bar than go do their local downtown and deal with all the things people have to deal with being surrounded by whites.

One thing I see thats never mentioned is the cost of PPV for bar/club.

All PPV buys are not the same. I think most people on this site have no clue how this works.

PPV is just closed circuit TV. People used to go the movie theatre in the 70s and 80s. Being at home arrived with cable boxes in the late 80's early 90s.

Viewing habits have change even since then. Most people view fights at strip clubs, bars, and restaurants. People dont have fight parties anymore. Its better to meet up with friends at a central spot and watch.

Nobody has to collect money or shell out cash for a food spread. No one effing up your house. No kicking out friends when your girlfriend/wife gets tired.

People like to ignore these things called advertisements. If you havent noticed restaurants like Twin Peaks/Champs are hosting fights just like MMA.

Purchasing a fight for a place like this isn't just $74.99. More like $2-10K a pop. That isnt cheap and that adds up when you account for how many bars and restaurants there are in America. So calculating how much is made off of each fight isnt the simple math of $75 x 325k buys. All buys arent the same especially when corporations are making bulk purchases.

25-50$ on dinner and drinks is better than cleaning up after friends come over. I can recall the last figjht party Ive been to. The only time I watch alone is when a fight is on Pay TV like showtime.

Even the fights on free TV get big bar viewer ship because most on are Saturday night when most sports fans are at the sports bars because they have the money to buy 50 tvs and have 3 or 4 events on at the same time.

The last PPV Fury vs Wilder I watched at Twin Peaks. Every TV was on the fight and when Wilder knocked down Fury in the 12th you could have sworn our local football team just scored the the winning TD in the Super Bowl. I saw May vs Pac at a strip club and spent $500.

AJ inst drawing ANY crowd like that in the US. I dont even know if Chammps and Twin Peaks will have his fight. Ive seen more Pac vs Thurman signs than AJ. I know the one of our strip clubs will have the fight for sure.

Since AJ is on an app I have no clue where the go watch his fight except on a smart TV or illegal stream. Thats just the reality of the situation.
I think thats why American fans are so down on AJ in this site. We cant even watch him at out normal spots and have to watch highlights and streams to see him.

If Canelo would have started his career on DAZN like Haney is most American would have never seen him fight Floyd and he would be a nobody like most fighters.

Haney better act a pure @$$ on social media because Stevenson has a jump on him on being ESPN. Arum made a good move exposing his fighters on that network. ESPN will always keep you in the news cycle and is casual sports central.

[Laligalaliga]

This is where we disagree. I cant gage how popular Wilder is in the UK or Worldwide. The great thing for AJ is that DAZN gives AJ great exposure worldwide. The bad thing is that he gets little in the US unless Wilder name comes up.

This site says it all. I dont pay attention to bravado, just results. Being popular and well know are two different things.

Hitler was very well know but he wasnt very popular. As history shows you dont need to be popular to have a people follow your every word.

With AJ being on DAZN there isnt a very equitable way to measure viewership on America.

I dont know if your from America but Hockey games sells out frequently and they charge the most per game besides Football.

Yet Hockey players and Teams dont make the money or get the ratings of the NBA whos fans are more conditioned to watch at home. This inst just a money thing.

Most people of color rather watch at a local neighborhood bar than go do their local downtown and deal with all the things people have to deal with being surrounded by whites.

One thing I see thats never mentioned is the cost of PPV for bar/club.

All PPV buys are not the same. I think most people on this site have no clue how this works.

PPV is just closed circuit TV. People used to go the movie theatre in the 70s and 80s. Being at home arrived with cable boxes in the late 80's early 90s.

Viewing habits have change even since then. Most people view fights at strip clubs, bars, and restaurants. People dont have fight parties anymore. Its better to meet up with friends at a central spot and watch.

Nobody has to collect money or shell out cash for a food spread. No one effing up your house. No kicking out friends when your girlfriend/wife gets tired.

People like to ignore these things called advertisements. If you havent noticed restaurants like Twin Peaks/Champs are hosting fights just like MMA.

Purchasing a fight for a place like this isn't just $74.99. More like $2-10K a pop. That isnt cheap and that adds up when you account for how many bars and restaurants there are in America. So calculating how much is made off of each fight isnt the simple math of $75 x 325k buys. All buys arent the same especially when corporations are making bulk purchases.

25-50$ on dinner and drinks is better than cleaning up after friends come over. I can recall the last figjht party Ive been to. The only time I watch alone is when a fight is on Pay TV like showtime.

Even the fights on free TV get big bar viewer ship because most on are Saturday night when most sports fans are at the sports bars because they have the money to buy 50 tvs and have 3 or 4 events on at the same time.

The last PPV Fury vs Wilder I watched at Twin Peaks. Every TV was on the fight and when Wilder knocked down Fury in the 12th you could have sworn our local football team just scored the the winning TD in the Super Bowl. I saw May vs Pac at a strip club and spent $500.

AJ inst drawing ANY crowd like that in the US. I dont even know if Chammps and Twin Peaks will have his fight. Ive seen more Pac vs Thurman signs than AJ. I know the one of our strip clubs will have the fight for sure.

Since AJ is on an app I have no clue where the go watch his fight except on a smart TV or illegal stream. Thats just the reality of the situation.
I think thats why American fans are so down on AJ in this site. We cant even watch him at out normal spots and have to watch highlights and streams to see him.

If Canelo would have started his career on DAZN like Haney is most American would have never seen him fight Floyd and he would be a nobody like most fighters.

Haney better act a pure @$$ on social media because Stevenson has a jump on him on being ESPN. Arum made a good move exposing his fighters on that network. ESPN will always keep you in the news cycle and is casual sports central.

I guess we will talk after the fight when the numbers are out.
We will see whose more popular in the state.

[ELPacman]

I like how the topic is "If AJ batters and brutally stops Wilder".

First off, he needs to get in the ring with him. Second, I think Wilder has too much will and personality to ever let that happen. He knows how high the stakes are for him to beat AJ. He's gonna slip in one of them laser like bombs that you don't see coming. If a 40yr old Wlad dumped AJ, Wilder's freakish power will more than likely not let AJ get back up.

On the other hand, why not have multiple fights? Just because either one takes an "L" from the other doesn't have to mean it's ova (Lennox). In the past, heavyweights would trilogy each other. When the hell will we ever see that again? Nowadays it's like, we build up a fight to be the end all deciding factor of whose better when it finally happens. How about, they put their egos aside, make the fight, have a rematch clause. The best of 3 will always be considered the better in most scenarios.

[W1LL]

He's gonna slip in one of them laser like bombs that you don't see coming.

LMFAO! I'm not gonna quote the part where you implied Wilder is a better boxer than Wlad.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Fury completely schooled Klitschko and people still bought in to AJ vs an inactive Wlad 18 months later.

Styles make fights. Wilder-Fury 2 will always remain an interesting fight.

[Mammoth]

Styles make fights, all three fights need to happen regardless of who beats who.

This. Any of the top three could beat the other on the right night. I don't see why we all need to take sides and cum in our pants over any of them.

[_Rexy_]

LMFAO! I'm not gonna quote the part where you implied Wilder is a better boxer than Wlad.

I'd argue mentally he's better than Wlad. Wlad basically had given up by the fourth round.

[nubianpiye]

Fury v AJ is the only fight that matters wilder already lost to fury

[hugh grant]

If Josh beats wilder. Fury should still rematch wilder but give him reduced amount.
Wilder will be risking his life against fury, the head isn't meant to be punched.
So fury will reward him with 60-40