P4P idiots of NSB?

[IronDanHamza]

clen is a goto for semi-pro and pro bodybuilders because it's cheap and because it is nearly unique in its ability to be a stimulant and pseudo-anabolic. It's arguably the best at getting shredded and maintaining your muscle mass. Some allege that they were able to increase their strength while cutting.

This is why I find it entirely believable that boxers use this drug to help make weight and keeping all they gains they made in preparation.

That's not alleged, that's a given.

[Cypocryphy]

Obviously it doesn't change the fact also second thing is clenbuterol in beef is a problem in Mexico and he tested positive for trace amount of clenbuterol which isn't enough to do **** to �lvarez he is naturally skilled don't think he is a flat footed one dimentional fighter

Canelo claimed that he was contaminated during a celebrity dinner. There were many individuals who were at that dinner, including Bill Clinton. People who eat contaminated beef with clenbuterol will end up in the emergency room due to side-effects, such as racing heart, sweating, etc. All side-effects you typically find with stimulants will be experienced by eating contaminated beef. Canelo pinpointed the dinner outing where he was contaminated, which was the one previously mentioned. The problem is that no reports were made by individuals alleging clen contamination. I'm sure we should have heard that Clinton went to emergency because he was experiencing cardiovascular issues but we did not.

More important, however, is that Clen has a relatively short half-life. So if you ingest a standard dose of clenbuterol, it will be completely eliminated from your system in no more than two weeks. It should be gone well before then, but that's the max amount of time based on Clen's half-life. This is important because when you look at the time Canelo was tested and the time he was contaminated, that being said "celebrity dinner," it was nearly two months between. Canelo should not have not tested positive. So that immediately confirms that Canelo is lying about how and when he had ingested clenbuterol.

Furthermore, he's a professional athlete, and knowing that one is constantly being tested means that these athletes are stringent in controlling every little thing that goes into their body. Knowing that all kinds of substances can cause a positive result means that everything is monitored and catalogued. Given that he used a drug that one would use in order to save all the bulking that occurred while cutting weight for a fight, that his story for how he was contaminated is patently false, and that he of all people would know the dangerous of ingesting unmonitored food tells everyone with half a brain that he was purposefully using clenbuterol to cut weight but preserve his strength for the fight with Golovkin.

There are pictures before the fight with Golovkin where Canelo showed raised welts along his abdominal muscles. That is the effect of administering injections. These photos are readily available.

The bottom line is that Canelo is 100 percent guilty for PED abuse.

[IronDanHamza]

Canelo claimed that he was contaminated during a celebrity dinner. There were many individuals who were at that dinner, including Bill Clinton. People who eat contaminated beef with clenbuterol will end up in the emergency room due to side-effects, such as racing heart, sweating, etc. All side-effects you typically find with stimulants will be experienced by eating contaminated beef. Canelo pinpointed the dinner outing where he was contaminated, which was the one previously mentioned. The problem is that no reports were made by individuals alleging clen contamination. I'm sure we should have heard that Clinton went to emergency because he was experiencing cardiovascular issues but we did not.

More important, however, is that Clen has a relatively short half-life. So if you ingest a standard dose of clenbuterol, it will be completely eliminated from your system in no more than two weeks. It should be gone well before then, but that's the max amount of time based on Clen's half-life. This is important because when you look at the time Canelo was tested and the time he was contaminated, that being said "celebrity dinner," it was nearly two months between. Canelo should not have not tested positive. So that immediately confirms that Canelo is lying about how and when he had ingested clenbuterol.

Furthermore, he's a professional athlete, and knowing that one is constantly being tested means that these athletes are stringent in controlling every little thing that goes into their body. Knowing that all kinds of substances can cause a positive result means that everything is monitored and catalogued. Given that he used a drug that one would use in order to save all the bulking that occurred while cutting weight for a fight, that his story for how he was contaminated is patently false, and that he of all people would know the dangerous of ingesting unmonitored food tells everyone with half a brain that he was purposefully using clenbuterol to cut weight but preserve his strength for the fight with Golovkin.

There are pictures before the fight with Golovkin where Canelo showed raised welts along his abdominal muscles. That is the effect of administering injections. These photos are readily available.

The bottom line is that Canelo is 100 percent guilty for PED abuse.

Not entirely true.

Having trace Clen in your system won't send you to hospital, you likely wouldn't even feel a thing if it's a trace. Even taking 50mg of Clen wouldn't send you to the hospital. It will just give you a case of the shakes and have you sweating a bit and feeling generally shitty.

But at the end of the day, we don't even know if Canelo ate meat at this dinner, or ate any food at all. And even if he did eat 12 steaks, it's still impossible to prove that the meat eaten was contaminated with Clen. So there's zero evidence that that is the reason for his failed test.

All we do know is he had Clen in his system, that's the long and short of it.

We can't say that he is 100% guilty of PED abuse but what we can say is that he is 100% guilty of PED use.

[Cypocryphy]

Not entirely true.

Having trace Clen in your system won't send you to hospital, you likely wouldn't even feel a thing if it's a trace. Even taking 50mg of Clen wouldn't send you to the hospital. It will just give you a case of the shakes and have you sweating a bit and feeling generally shitty.

But at the end of the day, we don't even know if Canelo ate meat at this dinner, or ate any food at all. And even if he did eat 12 steaks, it's still impossible to prove that the meat eaten was contaminated with Clen. So there's zero evidence that that is the reason for his failed test.

All we do know is he had Clen in his system, that's the long and short of it.

We can't say that he is 100% guilty of PED abuse but what we can say is that he is 100% guilty of PED use.

There's some truth to that, but based on historical incidences and even incidences that continue to occur, people who are contaminated will seek or require medical treatment.

Officials in Seyé, in the Mexican state of Yucatan, said the incident involves up to 500 people but no deaths have been reported. The first alert about the poisoning was made this past week.

Patients were seen by the district’s doctor and sent to a hospital in the town of Acenceh but the local town hall also had to be converted into a temporary medical facility to handle the number of people who were sick.

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Are there instances where some do not seek medical treatment or not require it? Theoretically, it's possible. But in the laundry list of people being contaminated, they invariably end up receiving medical treatment.

And it makes sense because if you suddenly start sweating, have a racing heart, muscle spasms, headache, etc., then you're going to probably be very concerned about what's going on with you.

And in regard as to whether that was when he was contaminated (that being the dinner), that's what he said. That's where HE SAID he was contaminated, and that's what was used to explain himself to the sanctioning bodies. And I'm just pointing out that his claim that he was contaminated at that dinner is false. That even if that was where he had been contaminated, he shouldn't have tested positive for clenbuterol. That's my point.

And based on all the direct and circumstantial evidence, I can 100 PERCENT say that he is 100 PERCENT GUILTY of PED use. Everything I stated in my previous post supports that.

[Hustle]

If you're gonna put me on this list I need to be #1. Thank you

You gotta unify in 2024

[just the facts]

clen is a goto for semi-pro and pro bodybuilders because it's cheap and because it is nearly unique in its ability to be a stimulant and pseudo-anabolic. It's arguably the best at getting shredded and maintaining your muscle mass. Some allege that they were able to increase their strength while cutting.

This is why I find it entirely believable that boxers use this drug to help make weight and keeping all the gains they made in preparation.

You forgot to tell us how Haney invented Clen. Pha66ot.

[just the facts]

There's some truth to that, but based on historical incidences and even incidences that continue to occur, people who are contaminated will seek or require medical treatment.
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Are there instances where some do not seek medical treatment or not require it? Theoretically, it's possible. But in the laundry list of people being contaminated, they invariably end up receiving medical treatment.

And it makes sense because if you suddenly start sweating, have a racing heart, muscle spasms, headache, etc., then you're going to probably be very concerned about what's going on with you.

And in regard as to whether that was when he was contaminated (that being the dinner), that's what he said. That's where HE SAID he was contaminated, and that's what was used to explain himself to the sanctioning bodies. And I'm just pointing out that his claim that he was contaminated at that dinner is false. That even if that was where he had been contaminated, he shouldn't have tested positive for clenbuterol. That's my point.

And based on all the direct and circumstantial evidence, I can 100 PERCENT say that he is 100 PERCENT GUILTY of PED use. Everything I stated in my previous post supports that.

You forgot to tell us that it was Haney who supplied Clen to Canelo. Pha66ot.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I find that staggering. I would suggest you insist with your doctor. Or at least request getting your bloods done extensively so you can see where your test levels are at. Then you can go from there.

You can always get test on the black market, it's just finding a reliable source. I'm sure your gym owner or someone in your gym that you know will have a source.

Can't understand why your mates TRT journey's haven't gone well, I can't see any reason as to why it would be anything be very positive and beneficial.

You sound like you're in good shape already, like I said if it's me, I'd strongly recommend TRT. There is no down side to it.

You know how many doctors are; they’re dismissive of a layperson’s opinion. Lol But you’ve definitely made me reconsider the prospect of TRT. At the very least, I’m curious where my levels are in comparison to other men my age. I’m wary of anything blackmarket, and of using test without a doctor’s supervision. One of my concerns about using steroids at any stage of the game is how my body will react if/when I stop taking them. Although health is my primary concern, aesthetics certainly plays a role. Even in my younger friends, their physical appearance is drastically altered when they come off the juice. I am indeed in good physical shape, thank God. The prevailing thought is that maybe I should just leave well enough alone. It’s fascinating stuff, however, no matter how you look at it.

[QueensburyRules]

Not entirely true.

Having trace Clen in your system won't send you to hospital, you likely wouldn't even feel a thing if it's a trace. Even taking 50mg of Clen wouldn't send you to the hospital. It will just give you a case of the shakes and have you sweating a bit and feeling generally shitty.

But at the end of the day, we don't even know if Canelo ate meat at this dinner, or ate any food at all. And even if he did eat 12 steaks, it's still impossible to prove that the meat eaten was contaminated with Clen. So there's zero evidence that that is the reason for his failed test.

All we do know is he had Clen in his system, that's the long and short of it.

We can't say that he is 100% guilty of PED abuse but what we can say is that he is 100% guilty of PED use.

- - Soft lad I worked with had a girl he wanted to impress, so took up weightlifting with over the counter Clen that you may still be able to buy.

Sick as dog and missed 2 days work. End of the day he a soft lad before and after sorta like U.

As mentioned, Canelo officially well below the FAIL limit as Vic testified to Vegas commish who ******ly initiated their zero drug testing rule that they only used once on Canelo before ditching it, whereas TBE TUE 50-0 deserved a lifetime ban and not the two week Vegas Commish Backdated TUE that Hauser exposed.

U p4p dumberest forum member.

[IronDanHamza]

You know how many doctors are; they’re dismissive of a layperson’s opinion. Lol But you’ve definitely made me reconsider the prospect of TRT. At the very least, I’m curious where my levels are in comparison to other men my age. I’m wary of anything blackmarket, and of using test without a doctor’s supervision. One of my concerns about using steroids at any stage of the game is how my body will react if/when I stop taking them. Although health is my primary concern, aesthetics certainly plays a role. Even in my younger friends, their physical appearance is drastically altered when they come off the juice. I am indeed in good physical shape, thank God. The prevailing thought is that maybe I should just leave well enough alone. It’s fascinating stuff, however, no matter how you look at it.

The first thing you should definitely do is get your bloods done and see where you're at. If your test is low, which just by the fact the age you're at I think it will be at the very least below normal, I'd definitely request a TRT dose. To me it's a no brainer. I have to be on it because my test levels are in the ground due to years of PED use (and sometimes overuse) but either way, it's a no brainer for anybody in my opinion.

If health is your main concern than PED's in general aren't worth it, as they ultimately come with health risks. But TRT is totally fine, and if it's prescribed by a doctor then the dosage will be low (sometimes too low in my opinion)