P4P idiots of NSB?

[dan-b]

Canelo failed a drug test for Clenbuterol mate, I seriously cannot make that any clearer or easier for you to understand. He received a ban for it.

He had Clenbuterol in his system, and it was above the threshold for VADA's testing procedure at the time. That is a fact.

You're responding to a guy who's racked up nearly 20,000 posts of utter gibberish in under six years. Don't waste your energy.

[Gaydrien Boner]

Right, but PEDs are not banned though in pro bodybuilding, that’s the point. It’s not illegal to use them in that sport.

Canelo tested positive for a PED and a very well known one.

You have given him a pass, accepted his excuses for that despite the fact there is zero evidence that any of his excuses are true, and you have then gone one further and deemed him “likely clean” because he has passed some VADA tests.

On the same hand you then accuse other fighters of being assuredly being on PEDs with NO EVIDENCE what so ever to say so.

It’s beyond pathetic, and well beyond ******.

Clenbuterol isn't a steroid, so think twice before you say anything

[MulaKO]

Clenbuterol isn't a steroid, so think twice before you say anything

Your right but it is a substance that has steroid like effects from what I’ve read and understood

[IronDanHamza]

Clenbuterol isn't a steroid, so think twice before you say anything

Where did I say it was a steroid?

It's not a steroid, but it is a PED.

One in which Canelo was caught using.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I’ve been taking PEDs for 35+ years mate (just TRT now).

I’ve been around this game a long time, I’ve trained IFBB pros, I’ve trained “natural” world champion body builders (natural being used extremely loosely there), and a list of other sport specific athletes and I can tell you categorically that 750ml in 2 sittings is a normal amount to mask PED use. I’d imagine there was more where that came from.

And yes Victor Conte touched on it and he was correct, to take that for hydration doesn’t make sense. There are way better alternatives. Add to that Floyd doesn’t cut much weight.

It’s AT BEST su****ious.

I’ve been lifting (not always consistently), amongst other forms of training, for 42 years. Never used any PEDs. Always wanted to try, but various concerns got in the way. My physique and strength levels were nonetheless pretty respectable by normal standards. “Natural bodybuilding” is an oxymoron. Lol It cracks me up that those guys juice throughout their training, then stop sometime before a contest and are considered “natural.”

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Floyd — or any other pro athlete — were found to be using PEDs. It’s simply the age we’re in, and there’s way too much money involved to find it surprising. I completely agree that the IV thing with Floyd is, at the very least, su****ious.

By the way, in your opinion, do the testosterone levels in TRT make a marked difference for someone who’s never used steroids?

[IronDanHamza]

Your right but it is a substance that has steroid like effects from what I’ve read and understood

It's a PED that assists mostly with body fat loss.

Can also assist with muscle gain during that process.

It's a very popular drug for Pro Bodybuilders whilst in prep for a show when they are getting stage ready, as it is a rapid fat burner.

I have used Clen myself countless times, I'd often refer to it as a miracle drug as out of all the fat burning PED's on the market, Clen is by far the most efficient and powerful. But, with that also comes the strongest side effects. It's not a comfortable drug to use but it's definitely worth it if you want to maximize performance.

There is not a PED better for a boxer who is cutting weight.

[Marchegiano]

Right, but PEDs are not banned though in pro bodybuilding, that’s the point. It’s not illegal to use them in that sport.

Canelo tested positive for a PED and a very well known one.

You have given him a pass, accepted his excuses for that despite the fact there is zero evidence that any of his excuses are true, and you have then gone one further and deemed him “likely clean” because he has passed some VADA tests.

On the same hand you then accuse other fighters of being assuredly being on PEDs with NO EVIDENCE what so ever to say so.

It’s beyond pathetic, and well beyond ******.

Shoulder is a solid and respectable poster, imo, so I'd rather distance myself from the insult portion of your response, but the criticism has truth to it and I am authentically interested in his response.

[QueensburyRules]

Canelo failed a drug test for Clenbuterol mate, I seriously cannot make that any clearer or easier for you to understand. He received a ban for it.

He had Clenbuterol in his system, and it was above the threshold for VADA's testing procedure at the time. That is a fact.

- - Fact is the finely honed point on U noggin.

Canelo didn’t fail VADA protocol, nor was he suspended by WBC.

Facts are Canelo suspended by 2 Week TUE backdating of Vegas Commish of Manny/l’l floydy fraud where they had to alter official scorecards for the result they needed to pay out 100s of millions of wagers.

Golovkin reward for pushing the suspension was getting beat up by Canelo in the rematch.

U need to come clean on contaminating innocent marine life wif U steroids, viagra, sedatives, and *******.

[MulaKO]

It's a PED that assists mostly with body fat loss.

Can also assist with muscle gain during that process.

It's a very popular drug for Pro Bodybuilders whilst in prep for a show when they are getting stage ready, as it is a rapid fat burner.

I have used Clen myself countless times, I'd often refer to it as a miracle drug as out of all the fat burning PED's on the market, Clen is by far the most efficient and powerful. But, with that also comes the strongest side effects. It's not a comfortable drug to use but it's definitely worth it if you want to maximize performance.

There is not a PED better for a boxer who is cutting weight.

It’s been a while That I wanted to know exactly what it was , so I’ve been reading up on it and yes you 120% right
Personally , I think everyone is on juice may it be Floyd , Canelo or Pac
Comes down to literally who has more money for better dope or better masking agents , simple
One of my all time favourite reads was Jose Canseco’s first book
That read really put many things at ease in my mind ( started the book and couldn’t put it down lol )
They’re was Botox parties , now they have ped party’s and im a believer that it is the fountain of youth if taken properly
Been on my mind a long time but hard to get help with chit like that being illegal and all
Plus i won’t take some guy’s word who is just pushing it for the dollar

[MulaKO]

Shoulder is a solid and respectable poster, imo, so I'd rather distance myself from the insult portion of your response, but the criticism has truth to it and I am authentically interested in his response.

Shoulder is a respectable poster until it comes to Canelo
Canelo can do no wrong