Comments Thread For: Thurman on PEDs: Let Pacquaio Take Whatever the F*** He Wants!

[eco1]

By the declarations Thurman has been throwing around, then this fight is pointless.

[diplo]

But, not everyone has the history of pac when it comes to su****ion over lack of testing...refusal to test close to a fight, being an A side and not requesting testing, lo power disappearing for almost 10 yrs when testing was in place but suddenly it reappears when he isn't tested.... You know all of the points that I made in my previous comment that you responded to, but comveniently only left in the part that says "this isn't the court of law". Pac has very reasonable reasons for su****ion, moreso than the average boxer.

No I get it, and I'm not here defending Pacquiao. I'm just saying that by refusing tests, surely he knows that will only raise more su****ion. Whereas known dopers had no problem doing tests, because they must have been confident of turning up clean tests.

I.e. if he has been doping, surely he would still do any required test and hopefully test negative. He's not a ****** man (well, at least Bob Arum certainly isn't ******). If he was going to dope, then the best way is to do it and test negative. Not to refuse and build su****ion. I dunno, maybe they are that ******, lol.

[Jab jab boom]

No I get it, and I'm not here defending Pacquiao. I'm just saying that by refusing tests, surely he knows that will only raise more su****ion. Whereas known dopers had no problem doing tests, because they must have been confident of turning up clean tests.

I.e. if he has been doping, surely he would still do any required test and hopefully test negative. He's not a ****** man (well, at least Bob Arum certainly isn't ******). If he was going to dope, then the best way is to do it and test negative. Not to refuse and build su****ion. I dunno, maybe they are that ******, lol.

valid points

[Bluebird]

no, it was not

the lawsuit was intended to create "friction" between both camps, to prevent the possibility of a successful negotiation..... and to create sympathy in the media

want proof..... ?

Mayweather made insinuations..... well, whoop-de-shlt..... because Atlas and Malignaggi both called Pacquiao a dirty steroid cheat

Q. why didn't Pac sue Atlas and Malignaggi ?

A. Pac was not trying to avoid Atlas and Malignaggi

FACT: Manny could have simply taken the harmless blood tests..... just like everyone else did..... and just like he agreed to eventually

it is funny that the ridiculous show-stopping excuses Manny used to justify killing a super-fight were never even mentioned ONCE when he finally agreed to random blood testing years later..... proving how ridiculous and unnecessary all of those silly excuses were back in 2010

If you can’t prove it, you don’t win, it’s as simple as that. That’s why Mayweather paid Pac, he couldn’t backup his fantasy allegations. If you still don’t get it, it’s on you!

[Bluebird]

This isn't the court of law so innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply. Pac has refused drug tests in the past citing that he was scared of needles or that taking blood weakens him, with all of the ped use going on today , why isn't he as the A side insisting on testing for this fight ? Why was Broner the one who insisted on testing for the last fight but it started way too late? Why did pacs ko power suddenly reappear when he fought mathysse during a fight that had no testing, after not having a ko for 9 yrs?? Why did roach admit that he had no clue what ariza was giving pac when he was in his camp and that ariza refused to tell him?? You wait on a positive test if you want... But it's pretty clear what the deal is even if you're too much in denial to see it. You're like the guy who is so in love with a girl that he refuses to see that she's cheating on him even though all of his friends are warning him.

Of course, it does! Why do you think Mayweather paid Pac to settle the lawsuit if innocent until proven guilty does not apply? There’s no better way to prove your accuser wrong than to sue them and make them pay, embarrass them and take their money! This is the USA, innocent until proven guilty will always apply! God bless the USA!

[Jab jab boom]

Of course, it does! Why do you think Mayweather paid Pac to settle the lawsuit if innocent until proven guilty does not apply? There’s no better way to prove your accuser wrong than to sue them and make them pay, embarrass them and take their money! This is the USA, innocent until proven guilty will always apply! God bless the USA!

OK usa. This is the court of public opinion and imo pac is dirty. And here's a spoiler, I'm not the only one who thinks he's dirty. Give me 1 good reason why he isn't pushing for ped testing for this Thurman fight.

[Bluebird]

OK usa. This is the court of public opinion and imo pac is dirty. And here's a spoiler, I'm not the only one who thinks he's dirty. Give me 1 good reason why he isn't pushing for ped testing for this Thurman fight.

And I’m not the only one who thinks he’s clean. You are entitled to your own opinion, just like I am. They will fight in Vegas, there will be some drug testing for sure, they just didn’t mention it yet. Think about this, after Canelo got busted, do you think these 2 top 5 welterweight boxers would tarnish their reputations? I don’t think so.

[Dosumpthin]

And I’m not the only one who thinks he’s clean. You are entitled to your own opinion, just like I am. They will fight in Vegas, there will be some drug testing for sure, they just didn’t mention it yet. Think about this, after Canelo got busted, do you think these 2 top 5 welterweight boxers would tarnish their reputations? I don’t think so.

“I tried drugs … many kinds of drugs, all kinds of drugs,” said Pacquiao.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefix.com/manny-pacquiao-admits-past-drug-use-supports-philippines-drug-war%3famp

Lol

Yep. You're the only one who still thinks he's clean.

[MulaKO]

“I tried drugs … many kinds of drugs, all kinds of drugs,” said Pacquiao.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefix.com/manny-pacquiao-admits-past-drug-use-supports-philippines-drug-war%3famp

Lol

Yep. You're the only one who still thinks he's clean.

Hes clearly talking about recreational drugs
Nothing to do with boxing
Nice try

[Dosumpthin]

No I get it, and I'm not here defending Pacquiao. I'm just saying that by refusing tests, surely he knows that will only raise more su****ion. Whereas known dopers had no problem doing tests, they must have been confident of turning up clean tests.

I.e. if he has been doping, surely he would still do any required test and hopefully test negative. He's not a ****** man (well, at least Bob Arum certainly isn't ******). If he was going to dope, then the best way is to do it and test negative. Not to refuse and build su****ion. I dunno, maybe they are that ******, lol.

That's why team Pac turned down the fight. They weren't confident.

WADA just introduced Athelete Biological Passport (ABP) and made it mandatory for signatories such as USADA.

Team PAC didn't want anything to do with ABP testing because it doesn't require direct detection of a banned substance.


They walked away from the biggest fight in history because they weren't confident. Period.