>>> Pacquiao has no wins over an ATG while in his prime...

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  • hugh grant
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    #51
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    based off beating 2 past prime champions in tapia and kelley? and someone that is his rival and also coming off of wars....nah... just because you can compete at a certain level doesnt mean you are still at your best
    Floyd s best win pac had nearly 70 fights when they fought. So how *****ty must Floyd s resume be? How past prime must Pac have been? He's had many more fights than barrera, fought better fighters overall than barrera, fought so much more than Floyd and better fighters! Pac literally sacrificed himself to achieve all he did in 8 divisions, floyd took what was left of pac
    Last edited by hugh grant; 02-19-2020, 05:35 PM.

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    • Jiub
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      #52
      Originally posted by Idunnoshet
      What determines if a fighter is in his Prime ?
      Age ? Ring wars ? Wins/ losses ?
      I think it's a bit subjective tbh.
      A fighters prime is determined by whether you want to praise them or tear them down. If you hate a fighter you will put him down by diminishing any of his wins by saying the opponents were shot. If you like the guy his opponents were prime ATG's and their bad performances don't matter. This is the boxing scene way

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #53
        Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
        Sorry folks but he doesn't...
        - -Holds every Ring p4p record known to man.

        U do do need to change U BigBoy trainers.

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        • therealpugilist
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          #54
          Originally posted by Jiub
          A fighters prime is determined by whether you want to praise them or tear them down. If you hate a fighter you will put him down by diminishing any of his wins by saying the opponents were shot. If you like the guy his opponents were prime ATG's and their bad performances don't matter. This is the boxing scene way
          Sums it up so eloquently

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          • Thraxox
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            #55
            P4P no. 3 Marco Antonio Barrera who was on a winning streak against Morales,Hamed, Kelly, Tapoa ring a bell? Oh wait he was already shot at that time that is why Barrera immediately TKOed Ayala and beaten Morales after Pacquiao beat the **** out of him

            How about this P4P no.2 Juan Manuel Marquez which is the 1st time the P4P no.1 actually fought P4P no.2 since Duran vs Leonard who then went on to unify the LW after getting beat by Pacquiao.

            Need more research bro.

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            • Thraxox
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              #56
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Not even close. Barrera was past prime before even fighting Naz.
              Barrera at 27 years old is already shot to you? might as well say that no one is prime then the moment they struggle 1 or 2 times.

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                #57
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Marquez dropped right back to 135 after the Floyd fight. He actually fought at 130 the year prior to the Floyd fight. It was too much too soon.
                Fair enough. I respect your opinion.

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                • TheMyspaceDayz
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                  #58
                  Not going to comment on everything because there is a whole lotta wrong in this thread. Too much. I’ll just say the following people don’t know what they are talking about:

                  Nay-Sayer
                  RobbieBarret
                  therealpugilist

                  Maybe a few others but their dumb words really jumped out at me.

                  Barrera was prime. Morales was prime. Marquez was prime.

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                  • travestyny
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                    lol smh.. i will never forget that part lmao!!! hard to say marquez was prime or in the best shape of his life when he fought floyd for that simple fact only.
                    I don't think this works like.....Marquez is in his prime, but out of prime because he drank piss. When that piss runs through his system, he is back to being prime! lol. Come on now.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                      Not going to comment on everything because there is a whole lotta wrong in this thread. Too much. I’ll just say the following people don’t know what they are talking about:

                      Nay-Sayer
                      RobbieBarret
                      therealpugilist

                      Maybe a few others but their dumb words really jumped out at me.

                      Barrera was prime. Morales was prime. Marquez was prime.
                      Morales who was coming off a loss to Raheem was prime? Take your tarded ass out of here.

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