>>> Pacquiao has no wins over an ATG while in his prime...

[Thraxox]

Ya it was "very clear"

Unofficial Scorecards

Jason Aniel, RingTalk.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Carlos Arias, Orange County Register: 114-113 Pacquiao
Marco Antonio Barrera: Draw
Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
Greg Beecham, Associated Press: 114-113 Marquez
Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com: 114-113 Marquez
Nate Campbell: Draw
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 114-113 Marquez
Steve Cofield, Lotus Broadcasting Las Vegas/ESPN Radio: 114-113 Pacquiao
Dave Cokin, Lotus Broadcasting Las Vegas/ESPN Radio: 115-112 Pacquiao
Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com: 114-113 Marquez
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com: 114-114 Draw
Mike DeLisa, CyberBoxingZone.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Beau Denison, The Fist: 114-114 Draw
William Detloff, The Ring Magazine: 115-113 Marquez
Nonito Donaire: 114-113 Marquez
Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Pacquiao
Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 115-113 Marquez
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 114-114 Draw
**** Flaherty, Boxing Judge (the judge replaced by Tom Miller): 114-113 Pacquiao
Pablo Fletes, LaPrensa: 114-113 Pacquiao
Norm Frauenheim, Arizona Republic: 114-113 Marquez
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-112 Pacquiao
Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 114-113 Marquez
Brian Gorman, RingTalk.com: 114-113 Marquez
Lee Groves, MaxBoxing.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Jeff Haney, Las Vegas Sun: 114-113 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com :115-112 Marquez
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports:115-112 Marquez
Aaron Jones, *********.com: 115-112 Pacquiao
Michael Katz, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Brian Kenny, ESPN Friday Night Fights: 115-112 Marquez
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-112 Pacquiao
Dave Larzelere, The Sporting News: 114-113 Pacquiao
Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-112 Pacquiao
Mark Lichtenfeld, Boxing Digest/ThroughTheRopes Radio Program/SportsByLineUSA: Draw
Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Scott Mallon, The Ring Magazine/Boxing News/The Fist/Boxing Digest: 114-113 Marquez
Ryan Maquinana, MaxBoxing.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Michael Marley, ******************.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Rich Marotta, Top Rank TV: 114-113 Marquez
Frances Martel, RingTalk.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 114-113 Pacquiao
Bruce McTavish, International Judge: 115-112 Marquez
Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Gabriel Montoya, DogHouseBoxing: 114-113 Marquez
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 114-113 Pacquiao
Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters: 114-113 Marquez
Jim Murphy, TheSweetScience.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Michael Nelson, The Boxing Bulletin: 114-113 Pacquiao
Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer: 114-113 Marquez
Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
Lee Payton, The Boxing Bulletin: 114-114 Draw
Victor Perea, *********.com: 115-113 Marquez
Ken Pollitt, The13thRound.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Jeff Pryor, The Boxing Bulletin: 114-113 Marquez
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 114-113 Pacquiao
Gary Purfield, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com: 114-113 Marquez
Eric Raskin, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-113 Marquez
Joe Santoliquito, The Ring Magazine: 115-112 Marquez
Bill Scherer, Suite101.com: 114-114 Draw
James Slater, ********Boxing.com: 114-113 Marquez
Eric Sloan, Washington, D.C. examiner.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Ryan ********, BoxingScene.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Michael Swann, 15Rounds.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 114-113 Pacquiao
Undisputed, Round-By-Round Update Correspondent, DogHouseBoxing: 115-114 Pacquiao
John Vaci, The Boxing Bulletin: 115-113 Pacquiao
Andrew Walker, ********Boxing.com: 115-114 Marquez


None of the above scores for Marquez were from Mexican media/boxers.
None of the above scores for Pacquiao were from Philippine media/boxers.


Among those unofficial scorers above, 32 scored the bout for Marquez, 32 scored it for Pacquiao, and the remainder scored it a draw.

You do know you just debunked your own original statement?

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You do know you just debunked your own original statement?

Original statement was "Pac clearly beat JMM in 2nd fight"

Me "the fuck he did"

Your response "you're a potato!!"

My response "objective data supporting my post"

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[Thraxox]

Original statement was "Pac clearly beat JMM in 2nd fight"

Me "the fuck he did"

Your response "you're a potato!!"

My response "objective data supporting my post"

/thread

Is this a joke or serious? Pac "winning" 2nd fight was same as Canelo "winning" 1st fight w/ GGG. It didnt happen

God PacTARDS are fucking ******

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Pacquiao beat marquez on their second fight and marquez was surely on his prime at that time.

These *****s are just hating.

There was no "clearly" in there, he just said Pacquiao officially had beaten Marquez in the 2nd fight. You tried to argue it was a robbery by comparing the result to GGG vs Canelo 1 when most observers and ringside had it most to GGG, while Marquez vs Pacquiao was 50/50

You got proven wrong.

[Zaryu]

Lol! Dumb thread...

[Ca$ual Fan]

Is this a joke or serious? Pac "winning" 2nd fight was same as Canelo "winning" 1st fight w/ GGG. It didnt happen

God PacTARDS are fucking ******

Actually, it was more like Canelo "winning" the 2nd fight w/ GGG. Their 1st fight was more like Pac-JMM3, if not worse, considering the 118-110 scorecard.

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There was no "clearly" in there, he just said Pacquiao officially had beaten Marquez in the 2nd fight. You tried to argue it was a robbery by comparing the result to GGG vs Canelo 1 when most observers and ringside had it most to GGG, while Marquez vs Pacquiao was 50/50

You got proven wrong.

And Bradley officially beat Pacman in 1st fight...

PacFUCKS are dumber than a block of wood.

Floydie 48-0 and Joe Fucking Horn - a gym teacher - UD12 that little queer LMFAO

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Actually, it was more like Canelo "winning" the 2nd fight w/ GGG. Their 1st fight was more like Pac-JMM3, if not worse, considering the 118-110 scorecard.

No.

Canelo won the rematch or it was a draw.

JMM won the 3rd fight - no draw.

1st Canelo fight was either 7-5 Borat or a draw

2nd JMM Pac fight was 7-5 either way or a draw....definitively NO CLEAR winner

[ruedboy]

What qualifies a boxer as an "ATG"?
What constitutes a boxer's "prime"?
These are vague terms, basically opinions and open to bias.
All a fighter can do is beat the fighters they put in front of him.

[dibzvincent143]

Sorry folks but he doesn't...

He has prime barrera..

Floyd is the one who doesn’t have any over prime atgs.

[BKM-]

Actually he has more wins over primed ATG's than the overwhelming majority of other so called ATG's.