Average boxing viewership for 2019

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  • Stinger1
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    #21
    The ratings are declining because the best fights are going on PPV. A few years ago you had Thurman v Garcia and Thurman v Porter on Showtime and CBS? Now those level of fights are going on PPV and being replaced with lower calibre fights. If PPV doesn't generate the necessary revenue then these fights will return to non-PPV outlets and ratings will go up.

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    • j.razor
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      #22
      Originally posted by New England
      1.5 million is not a great rating for fox unless times have really changed. it's network TV, you can watch it for free.


      nfl time slots get 10X as many viewers.

      ratings for boxing are down universally. a major part of that is the exodus of floyd mayweather and the decline of pacquiao. canelo doesn't speak english and just hasn't crossed over into a real star.
      Your comparing boxing to the nfl, now why is that? Nelo not speaking english has nothing to do with it either. You can hardly tell wtf pacquiao is saying so that B.S. talk of not speaking english can stop.

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      • bballchump11
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        #23
        Originally posted by New England
        1.5 million is not a great rating for fox unless times have really changed. it's network TV, you can watch it for free.


        nfl time slots get 10X as many viewers.

        ratings for boxing are down universally. a major part of that is the exodus of floyd mayweather and the decline of pacquiao. canelo doesn't speak english and just hasn't crossed over into a real star.
        They pay billions of dollars a year for the NFL too

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        • Motorcity Cobra
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          #24
          Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
          Comparing NFL to Boxing is when I stopped reading. NFL time slots gets 10x as many viewers than a lot of programs. ESPN has close to 100M subscribers and TopRank not even cracking a 1/4 million. PBC just beat out a NHL playoff game last week and they’ve had multiple PPVs over 300k. Now I’m hearing there are multiple big money investors who are trying to buy PBC for a large amount. PBC has built a nice brand within 4years
          NBA playoffs is averaging only 4.5 mil. The way people talk around here you'd think it was averaging 10 mil. The Porter/Spence fight can crack 3 mil

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          • Motorcity Cobra
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            #25
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            THIS ^^^^ I don't know how many times people have to say it you can't compared Network ratings to Cable Ratings. And you can't compare Cable ratings to Premium Cable ratings. You pay for Cable you don't pay for Network TV so it's in vastly more homes so they require way more viewers. And same for Premium Channels like Showtime you pay an additional monthly cost on top of normal basic Cable TV bill and Cable tv channels are in more homes so require more viewers. On Network TV 2M viewers is the minimum these cards should be avging. On ESPN these cards should be getting 1M viewers and Showtime used to be getting 500K viewers and just a few years back they were competing neck and neck with HBO doing close to 1M viewers. Showtime numbers are obviously the worst but across the board these numbers are lower then what they should be. ESPN right now is doing what HBO did in viewers and that should not happen when ESPN is more accessible and in more homes then HBO was. And 1.5M on FOX is way off where they should be. It's way off from what the UFC was doing on FOX. The only numbers that could be labeled as good is UFC's numbers on ESPN they are doing over 1M viewers that's very good for cable tv. But saying oh PBC doing better then cable and showtime so that's great is just dumb. They on Network TV finishing dead last compared to other Network's they compete with. They are not competing with Showtime lol

            This is what PBC on FOX ratings look like compared to actual Network TV programming. They finished DEAD LAST for a network and dead last for individual programs. Lowering the bar by comparing it to cable and showtime to pretend they are good false.

            These are the same numbers and same things you used up to say when you were saying PBC would never get a network deal. So serious question, you were wrong then, you're still saying the same thing now, so why should anybody listen to you when it comes to this?

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            • mp1110
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              #26
              However you cut it, FOX is getting a good deal with the PBC. They were paying UFC a hell of a lot more and the viewership numbers were at historic lows by the time the deal was up.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #27
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                These are the same numbers and same things you used up to say when you were saying PBC would never get a network deal. So serious question, you were wrong then, you're still saying the same thing now, so why should anybody listen to you when it comes to this?
                They are not the same numbers you were saying the numbers would go up once FOX gave them a deal and started putting time promoting them. But now FOX is doing the same level promoting they did with UFC giving PBC a ton of attention and the numbers are still not good.

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  NBA playoffs is averaging only 4.5 mil. The way people talk around here you'd think it was averaging 10 mil. The Porter/Spence fight can crack 3 mil
                  why you lying this what the NBA Playoffs did just last weekend



                  Even compared to last week look how bad the PBC 1.38M rating looks? It barely beat the worst programs last week which were reruns of Master Chef Jr lol Without airing any live or new content FOX did 1.1M for the night and finished DEAD Last just like they did this weekend airing PBC.
                  Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-16-2019, 03:12 PM.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    This is what the averages for the networks should be:

                    PBC on FOX = 1.9-2.1M
                    PBC on FS1 = 350-400K (The average isn't bad, but that includes an anomaly)
                    TR on ESPN = 850-900K
                    SHO = 500-600K

                    Not to mention that DAZN likely isn't getting great averages either. So all these boxing cards we have every week including a lot of showcase fights or mismatches are not helping the cause.
                    Yeah. Also a number of cards have been head to head.

                    Take last week. If you put Navaratte/Dogboe 2 and Berchelt/vargas 2 on the undercard of Hurd/Williams that would be a damn good 3 hr card that would attract a cross section of fans.

                    Instead we get a ESPN card geared toward Mexican fans, a PBC card geared toward African Americans that compete with each other.

                    Just ******!

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mp1110
                      However you cut it, FOX is getting a good deal with the PBC. They were paying UFC a hell of a lot more and the viewership numbers were at historic lows by the time the deal was up.
                      The UFC's lowest of low ratings are basically better then PBC's highest of high ratings. The ratings aren't comparable UFC's are much better. They never had a card ever do 1.38M viewers and that's not even the PBC's lowest ratings. They did 1.082M their card last month. UFC numbers were considered subpar when they barely dipped under 2M. PBC just started their FOX deal and already doing close to 1M viewers which is more then half what UFC was averaging their final year. Their are websites that all they do is analyze the ratings and numbers they have no vested interest in any of the programs and even they make the shyt dummy proof with color coded indexes of what is good or below avg network ratings. It's just funny hearing the spin that goes on up in here when every card PBC finishes dead last for Network tv is deep red then fools say these are great numbers lol
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-16-2019, 03:15 PM.

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