Average boxing viewership for 2019

[Boksfan]

Wow PBC must be trash if they have such a piss poor ratings on free TV.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

1.5 million is not a great rating for fox unless times have really changed. it's network TV, you can watch it for free.


nfl time slots get 10X as many viewers.

ratings for boxing are down universally. a major part of that is the exodus of floyd mayweather and the decline of pacquiao. canelo doesn't speak english and just hasn't crossed over into a real star.

Comparing NFL to Boxing is when I stopped reading. NFL time slots gets 10x as many viewers than a lot of programs. ESPN has close to 100M subscribers and TopRank not even cracking a 1/4 million. PBC just beat out a NHL playoff game last week and they’ve had multiple PPVs over 300k. Now I’m hearing there are multiple big money investors who are trying to buy PBC for a large amount. PBC has built a nice brand within 4years

[KTFOKING]

Comparing NFL to Boxing is when I stopped reading. NFL time slots gets 10x as many viewers than a lot of programs. ESPN has close to 100M subscribers and TopRank not even cracking a 1/4 million. PBC just beat out a NHL playoff game last week and they’ve had multiple PPVs over 300k. I know Fox is happy they got behind PBC. Now I’m hearing there are multiple big money investors who are trying to buy PBC for a large amount. Al Haymon built a nice brand within 4years lol

Numbers need to be better period. The 18-49 demo is what really counts, but these numbers aren't good enough. If they don't improve during NFL season or once Smackdown starts up? There will be a problem.

Spence-Porter will certainly help the cause though. I'm curious to see how well the Charlo/Harrison card does on a Sunday. I'm a fan of Sunday cards.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

I know the fighters at pbc are glad that they are being viewed by over a million people. PBC on Fox is tending upwards and that’s a good thing. F

[bigdunny1]

This is what the averages for the networks should be:

PBC on FOX = 1.9-2.1M
PBC on FS1 = 350-400K (The average isn't bad, but that includes an anomaly)
TR on ESPN = 850-900K
SHO = 500-600K

THIS ^^^^ I don't know how many times people have to say it you can't compared Network ratings to Cable Ratings. And you can't compare Cable ratings to Premium Cable ratings. You pay for Cable you don't pay for Network TV so it's in vastly more homes so they require way more viewers. And same for Premium Channels like Showtime you pay an additional monthly cost on top of normal basic Cable TV bill and Cable tv channels are in more homes so require more viewers. On Network TV 2M viewers is the minimum these cards should be avging. On ESPN these cards should be getting 1M viewers and Showtime used to be getting 500K viewers and just a few years back they were competing neck and neck with HBO doing close to 1M viewers. Showtime numbers are obviously the worst but across the board these numbers are lower then what they should be. ESPN right now is doing what HBO did in viewers and that should not happen when ESPN is more accessible and in more homes then HBO was. And 1.5M on FOX is way off where they should be. It's way off from what the UFC was doing on FOX. The only numbers that could be labeled as good is UFC's numbers on ESPN they are doing over 1M viewers that's very good for cable tv. But saying oh PBC doing better then cable and showtime so that's great is just dumb. They on Network TV finishing dead last compared to other Network's they compete with. They are not competing with Showtime lol

This is what PBC on FOX ratings look like compared to actual Network TV programming. They finished DEAD LAST for a network and dead last for individual programs. Lowering the bar by comparing it to cable and showtime to pretend they are good false.

[bigdunny1]

Here is all the cards UFC ever did in the 7 year history on FOX. The lowest individual card EVER drew 1.678M and that comes with a major asterisk because the UFC signed a deal with ESPN early last year. FOX knew they were out the door but had a few more lame duck cards before they bolted. So FOX drastically cut down the amount of promotion for their last few cards. And still their worst of the worst ratings are better then PBC. Before UFC told FOX they were leaving the worst rating they ever did was 1.983M. The UFC cards consistently hit 2M and higher. They avg 2.773M during their time on FOX. 1.5M avg for PBC is not good. reruns of shows that have already been decided on to be canceled draw over 1M viewers during the same weeknight time slots on Network TV

[KTFOKING]

Here is all the cards UFC ever did in the 7 year history on FOX. The lowest individual card EVER was 1.678M and that comes with a major asterisk because the UFC signed a deal with ESPN early last year. FOX knew they were out the door but had a few more lame duck cards before they bolted. So FOX drastically cut down the amount of promotion for their cards. And still their worst of the worst ratings are better then PBC. Before UFC told FOX they were leaving the worst rating they ever did was 1.983M. Their cards consistently hit 2M and higher. They avg 2.773M during their time on FOX. 1.5M for PBC is not good. reruns of shows that have already been decided on to be canceled draw over 1M viewers during the same weeknight time slots on Network TV

The decline had already started to be honest. They went from doing 3-4M+ in average viewers to low 2 millions by UFC 23. I wouldn't use the 2.77 overall average as that is misleading. But that's why I said the PBC on FOX needs to start hitting the 1.9-2.1M range and improve on the 18-49 demo. If they do that, then everything will be fine considering FOX is paying far less for this product than the did for the UFC and the ratings become on par with what the UFC was doing in the last year or year in a half on FOX.

The UFC is more popular period and that much is obvious. We are seeing it on ESPN with the UFC doing far better than boxing. Why? They have one set product where everyone knows they have 85-90% of the best fighters in the world. Far harder to keep track of what is going on with boxing and who is signed to who and what network they fight on. More TV dates and more money being thrown around in boxing hurts the ratings big time as it dilutes the sport. Great for the fighters I guess, but the viewership is going to take a hit.

[rolshans]

Cable is dead...

[bigdunny1]

The decline had already started to be honest. They went from doing 3-4M+ in average viewers to low 2 millions by UFC 23. I wouldn't use the 2.77 overall average as that is misleading. But that's why I said the PBC on FOX needs to start hitting the 1.9-2.1M range and improve on the 18-49 demo. If they do that, then everything will be fine considering FOX is paying far less for this product than the did for the UFC and the ratings become on par with what the UFC was doing in the last year or year in a half on FOX.

The UFC is more popular period and that much is obvious. We are seeing it on ESPN with the UFC doing far better than boxing. Why? They have one set product where everyone knows they have 85-90% of the best fighters in the world. Far harder to keep track of what is going on with boxing and who is signed to who and what network they fight on. More TV dates and more money being thrown around in boxing hurts the ratings big time as it dilutes the sport. Great for the fighters I guess, but the viewership is going to take a hit.

Even if you take the UFC ratings just last year alone which were already declining and then really took a dip once they told FOX we are leaving you for ESPN they still blow the PBC out the water. Basically the worst UFC ratings are better then the best PBC ratings. And PBC ratings have dipped ever since they debuted their new deal in Dec and they debuted LESS then 2M viewers out the gate. So their starting point is already below par and has gone down. I also think UFC going to ESPN has damaged Top Rank because a lot other cards or now competing with ESPN. For example some ESPN Top Rank cards are airing live against UFC ESPN+ cards or ESPN PPV cards and vice versa because there is only so many sat nights for BOTH Top Rank and UFC so there is tons of overlap and UFC is killing them. But stating PBC is doing great is foolish this weekend alone they did 1.385M on Network TV which is available in like 100M homes.

What's funny is NASCAR on FOX's smaller cable channel FS1 drew drastically higher ratings then PBC did on FOX the bigger network with more viewers available to watch.

NASCAR starting at 7:35PM did 2.177M viewers on FS1
PBC starting at 8PM did 1.385M viewers on FOX

That should NOT happen where your cable channel sister station beats out your main Network station on prime time with both airing live sports no less.

[KTFOKING]

Even if you take the UFC ratings just last year alone which were already declining and then really took a dip once they told FOX we are leaving you for ESPN they still blow the PBC out the water. Basically the worst UFC ratings are better then the best PBC ratings. And PBC ratings have dipped ever since they debuted their new deal in Dec and they debuted LESS then 2M viewers out the gate. So their starting point is already below par and has gone down. I also think UFC going to ESPN has damaged Top Rank because a lot other cards or now competing with ESPN. For example some ESPN Top Rank cards are airing live against UFC ESPN+ cards or ESPN PPV cards and vice versa because there is only so many sat nights for BOTH Top Rank and UFC so there is tons of overlap and UFC is killing them. But stating PBC is doing great is foolish this weekend alone they did 1.385M

What's funny is NASCAR on FOX's smaller cable channel FS1 drew drastically higher ratings then PBC did on FOX the bigger network with more viewers available to watch.

NASCAR starting at 7:35PM did 2.177M viewers on FS1
PBC starting at 8PM did 1.385M viewers on FOX

That should NOT happen where your cable channel sister station beats out your main Network station on prime time with both airing live sports no less.

Nascar brings in good ratings and always have. They have demographic that makes up majority of the country.

UFC has helped TR on some cards as well though giving them a nice lead in. But yes, easy to see which product does better ratings when the UFC is damn near doubling what TR is doing.

The Charlo brothers card averaged 1.971M and Thurman/Lopez averaged 1.98M. Those ratings are fine and in the range of what the last 9 UFC on FOX cards averaged. But the PBC needs more cards in that range and some superior to those ranges. Obviously putting the likes of Spence and Wilder would take care of that and the Spence/Porter card should do nice ratings.

Again, if the ratings don't pick up once they get NFL and Smackdown promotion? Then there will be a problem.......a big problem.