Comments Thread For: Canelo's Promoter Caught Off Guard By IBF's Mandatory Order

[aboutfkntime]

If he wasn't Mexican, maybe? However, Oscar started something, Mayweather became ****** rich, and so...NO! Drop the belt, keep the date! If Andrade wants the fight, he better be ready in September, or it's option B (GGG), and option B brings in a lot more money than a WBO Belt!

I will never understand that logic

really ?

I know we touched on this earlier..... and I admitted that you could be right..... but I still don't get it.....

so, there is a day during the year..... no, wait..... there are TWO days during the year..... where you simply have to watch an expensive boxing PPV..... no matter who is fighting?

nope, I don't get that at all

I am a boxing guy, always have been..... but if the choice is a rubbish/lesser fight, or a top-level rugby match..... then I am watching the rugby..... and the most popular sport in Mexico is football, not boxing

there are no such customs here

a boxing-day test match (cricket) is the only similar tradition that comes to mind..... but in that example, you have no option..... that event will not be held on any other day, and no other event will be held on that day..... also, it is free

surely, if the choice is..... spend money watching a lesser fight in September..... or wait until October for a much better fight..... that choice is a no-brainer?

surely more fans will buy the better fight..... ?

maybe there is some tradition I don't get..... boxing is big in Mexico, but it is not their national sport, nor their most popular sport..... and if Canelo truly is an international star, then the benefits of fighting a better opponent on any date, would likely outweigh a popular Mexican date imho

I think those dates are over-blown..... they should be a "would be nice, if possible"..... not a "we fight on that date, regardless"

being married to a date is absurd in my opinion..... you select the best opponent, and then you select a suitable date that fits

[aboutfkntime]

That's like saying even though the Patriots are defending super bowl champs and super bowl is always in Feb and makes more money in Feb they should just move the game to January and not even wait for the other teams to finish the playoffs just because AFC says so and if you don't agree the Patriots should be stripped of their AFC title. Rather then keep the Superbowl where it is and let the playoffs play out and let the Patriots defend their championship against the team that finishes #1 from the NFC.

I know some don't understand the American football analogy but what the IBF is doing to create a roadblock to STOP the best from fighting the best and unifying all the belts literally would never happen in any other major sport. They are telling canelo don't fight better opponents that are better for the sport, that fans actually want to see. And you have to lose money and do it on a date we know you can't fight on and makes no sense for you to fight on. A date that will draw less fans, expsure for the sport and drastically less money in your pocket.

Those may and Sept dates aren't being moved they literally the Superbowl of boxing dates hell Vegas economy is basically built around those dates.

And based on the timeline canelo can't even fight Andrade next he has to agree to fight Dervy by June 15 or he is stripped. That's what is crazy the timeline they impossed Andrade doesn't fight until June 26 they won't even allow him to wait until Andrade fights to decide if he wants to unify with the WBO champ and work out that fight.

haha yea it's crazy

just talking about that with bronx..... look, I have no idea

none of that makes any sense to me, it must be a Mexican thing

the superbowl is an organised competition, with concrete TV dates broadcast well in advance..... and the superbowl final date is not the same every year, right?

moving the superbowl a month..... is way different than Canelo selecting the best opponent, and then the most suitable date..... like everyone else does

not sure..... I would think that if Canelo really is an international star, then selecting the best opponent is more important than being married to a Mexican date that will necessitate lesser fights

not really arguing, I could be wrong there...... I don't get it LMAO

[champion4ever]

Canelo should consider relinquishing that IBF belt because Sergei Derevyanchenko is a very tough sell among Mexican and Mexican American fans on a Mexican Independence day weekend.

He has no loyal fans or a following and doesn't put meat in the seats. Just fight Gennady Golovkin in a rubber match already because it would at least sell.

Then fight Demetrius Andrade later in the year or in early 2020.

[KillaCamNZ]

It does look like a move designed to get Canelo to drop the IBF belt. They didn't even send him a congratulations letter, just the order to fight Derevyanchenko.

Boxing badly needs to cut down to just one alphabet group and one champion per division.

That's like asking the soft drink market to just cut down to one brand - Coke. Ain't gonna happen.

It's on the fans to pick their horse and back them - and disregard fights for titles they don't want.

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo should consider relinquishing that IBF belt because Sergei Derevyanchenko is a very tough sell among Mexican and Mexican American fans on a Mexican Independence day weekend.

He has no loyal fans or a following and doesn't put meat in the seats. Just fight Gennady Golovkin in a rubber match already because it would at least sell.

Then fight Demetrius Andrade later in the year or in early 2020.

fcuk Golovkin..... Canelo has a MASSIVE guarantee with DAZN, he does not need Golovkin at all

Canelo should fight Andrade to become undisputed, and then move to 168

or, fight Andrade..... then Golovkin..... and then move to 168

Canelo should not sacrifice a title, or an opportunity to become undisputed..... for a guy who has refused to even attempt to bring anything to the table

Golovkin only has a small fanbase..... and from what I hear, most Canelo fans want Andrade

also.....

when Canelo got busted for clen, Golovkin had an opportunity to become undisputed with Saunders..... but when he was stripped by the IBF, Golovkin showed no interest in Saunders..... because fighting Saunders would not have enabled Golovkin to become undisputed after being stripped of the IBF

not that Golovkin was going to fight him anyway..... but, Saunders became far less relevant

you can say the same thing about Andrade

why would Canelo need/want to fight Andrade next year, if Canelo is stripped by the IBF this year?

losing the IBF would make Andrade just another belt-holder

Canelo can take care of all his business in 1 fight, like the opportunity Golovkin had with Saunders..... because a unification ranks higher than a mando..... why would he sacrifice that opportunity for Golovkin, when Golovkin brings nothing to the table and DAZN will pay Canelo the same anyway?

Andrade, for all the marbles..... then on to better things

[Bronx2245]

I will never understand that logic

really ?

I know we touched on this earlier..... and I admitted that you could be right..... but I still don't get it.....

so, there is a day during the year..... no, wait..... there are TWO days during the year..... where you simply have to watch an expensive boxing PPV..... no matter who is fighting?

nope, I don't get that at all

I am a boxing guy, always have been..... but if the choice is a rubbish/lesser fight, or a top-level rugby match..... then I am watching the rugby..... and the most popular sport in Mexico is football, not boxing

there are no such customs here

a boxing-day test match (cricket) is the only similar tradition that comes to mind..... but in that example, you have no option..... that event will not be held on any other day, and no other event will be held on that day..... also, it is free

surely, if the choice is..... spend money watching a lesser fight in September..... or wait until October for a much better fight..... that choice is a no-brainer?

surely more fans will buy the better fight..... ?

maybe there is some tradition I don't get..... boxing is big in Mexico, but it is not their national sport, nor their most popular sport..... and if Canelo truly is an international star, then the benefits of fighting a better opponent on any date, would likely outweigh a popular Mexican date imho

I think those dates are over-blown..... they should be a "would be nice, if possible"..... not a "we fight on that date, regardless"

being married to a date is absurd in my opinion..... you select the best opponent, and then you select a suitable date that fits

Those dates made Oscar, Floyd (Cinco de Mayweather), and Canelo very rich men! Andrade is the one fighting lesser competition! Hearn has hurt him by putting his fight late in June! Now it's Andrade's choice to say, "I'm ready for September!" As good as Boo-Boo is, he's not worth moving a date, and passing up on Canelo vs. GGG III. Too much money on the table!

[aboutfkntime]

Those dates made Oscar, Floyd (Cinco de Mayweather), and Canelo very rich men! Andrade is the one fighting lesser competition! Hearn has hurt him by putting his fight late in June! Now it's Andrade's choice to say, "I'm ready for September!" As good as Boo-Boo is, he's not worth moving a date, and passing up on Canelo vs. GGG III. Too much money on the table!

those guys would have been extremely rich fighting on any date

you could be right, not sure really..... but I hope you're wrong about Andrade

so, 11 weeks..... likely meaning a 3-week break and 8 weeks to prepare for Canelo, including the promotion..... yea, not looking good is it

[aboutfkntime]

if Canelo/Andrade cannot be made for September.....

do we give Andrade props for proceeding with the Sulecki fight ?

I mean, GBP have obviously spoken to that camp..... and they will obviously have mentioned fighting in September

is Sulecki a mandatory ?

[_Rexy_]

so if Canelo drops the IBF to not fight Deryvanchenko what will the GGG haters do?

[Bronx2245]

those guys would have been extremely rich fighting on any date

you could be right, not sure really..... but I hope you're wrong about Andrade

so, 11 weeks..... likely meaning a 3-week break and 8 weeks to prepare for Canelo, including the promotion..... yea, not looking good is it

Nope! Don't forget, DAZN wants Canelo vs. GGG III, just as much as GGG himself!