How was haymon able to give manny $20 mil for thurman?

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  • killakali
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    #81
    Originally posted by killakali
    baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.

    Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?

    Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
    They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.

    Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
    and it is 39.6%. That’s the highest federal tax bracket.

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      #82
      Originally posted by killakali
      baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.

      Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?

      Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
      They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.

      Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
      Why wouldn't I have a portfolio, lol? Not my fault that you're not sharp enough to look after you're own future.

      Whether they lost money or didn't lose money doesn't mean ****, really; I've simply made the point that there were so many revenue streams that we know of, and ones that we don't, for the fight that for you to definitely say that money wasn't made back makes you look ******.

      Crawford-Khan did terrible business; drawing **** at the gate, doing so terribly on US PPV that folks are still radio silent a month after the event, and the race-baiting bull**** to kill any talks before the event was really done (likely because the tracking numbers weren't any good to start), with it publicly being told that Khan was getting $5m for the fight, it's pretty darn clear that that event didn't cover, lol.

      You assume **** that you have no grounds or basis to assume, and when someone knocks your critique with actual information or looks for you to back your critique with some information, you either ignore or start *****ing about why questions about your assumptions are being asked anyway.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #83
        Originally posted by killakali
        baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.

        Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?

        Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
        They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.

        Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
        "not sure why it bothers u so much"-clear sign you have no argument or nothing to contribute

        this is right up there with guys who say "i dunno why you care so much about someones opinion on a message board" when theyre quoting you and and replying to you ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!! yes this actually happens...its a sight to see really...guy telling me this cause he has nothing to say of relevance....ok dude why are you worried about my opinion then? lol

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        • KnockoutKings
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          #84
          Originally posted by Bundt
          Manny needs to give his contracts negotiator a bonus for getting $20M for the old man. Can you imagine if he wins? What’s to stop him from asking for $30M+ for the other PBC names.
          If he ends up fighting Spence, $30M is a nice retirement check

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          • Scipio2009
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            #85
            Originally posted by killakali
            and it is 39.6%. That’s the highest federal tax bracket.
            39.6% is the top marginal tax rate to file a personal income tax. The fact that you think that Floyd Mayweather, arguably having earned $1b over the course of his career, is still filing his taxes as if he's a normal working man shows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're out of you depth for even this kind of general conversation.


            Floyd is paying nowhere near 40% in taxes, especially if he simply made the vanilla move of running all of his affairs through "Floyd Joy Sinclair LLC" (or whatever he calls his limited liability company that expenses money to him).

            25% of net income of the LLC (with all earnings marked against all expenses before a drop of tax is paid).

            Try a bit of knowledge next time

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            • killakali
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              #86
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Why wouldn't I have a portfolio, lol? Not my fault that you're not sharp enough to look after you're own future.

              Whether they lost money or didn't lose money doesn't mean ****, really; I've simply made the point that there were so many revenue streams that we know of, and ones that we don't, for the fight that for you to definitely say that money wasn't made back makes you look ******.

              Crawford-Khan did terrible business; drawing **** at the gate, doing so terribly on US PPV that folks are still radio silent a month after the event, and the race-baiting bull**** to kill any talks before the event was really done (likely because the tracking numbers weren't any good to start), with it publicly being told that Khan was getting $5m for the fight, it's pretty darn clear that that event didn't cover, lol.

              You assume **** that you have no grounds or basis to assume, and when someone knocks your critique with actual information or looks for you to back your critique with some information, you either ignore or start *****ing about why questions about your assumptions are being asked anyway.
              not at all. U played amateur account again. You made up the amounts Floyd lift on his bets and his returns on his investments with no clue. You dodo believe he isn’t taxed at the higher rate with no clue what his tax write offs are.

              Most of his big purchases like luxury cars ***elry clothes etc he can’t write off.

              You also made up foreign tv and gate amounts for Pac Broner greatly inflating them yet make up more numbers to deflate Crawford-Khan foreign tv and gate. See what u are going is called being a hypocrite

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              • killakali
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                #87
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                "not sure why it bothers u so much"-clear sign you have no argument or nothing to contribute

                this is right up there with guys who say "i dunno why you care so much about someones opinion on a message board" when theyre quoting you and and replying to you ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!! yes this actually happens...its a sight to see really...guy telling me this cause he has nothing to say of relevance....ok dude why are you worried about my opinion then? lol
                thank you. I’m very grateful that my post was that important to you that you took the time to write a 3 paragraph answer to my post. I’m cry thankful that you spend your days waiting for and reading my posts. Muchas gracias!

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                • hectari
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                  #88
                  Haymon has DEEP investors thats how

                  Haymon paid off Pacmans back taxes so he could step foot back in the us, remember Arum said good luck to Haymon to try to get Pacman back in the US with all the taxes he owes well Haymon paid those off for him

                  Arum is a straight up snake, he was the guy spewing lies about Pac being scared of needles and held the fight back, he wanted to milk Manny because he had no faith in him if Manny were to lose to Floyd he didnt want to take the chance so he milked the hell outta Manny for years even trying to get him to lose to Bradley to transfer the star power but it back fired and then getting knocked cold by Marquez.

                  At least with this fight Pacman gets knocked out by Thurman he will leave with 20 million, I heard Arum tell Manny he could only pay him 3 million guarantee for Crawford and some upside for 7 million what a greedy SOb after all Pac has done for that dude.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #89
                    Haymon has a undergrad degree and an MBA from Harvard. He has been successful promoting concerts with a litany of top stars and turned Floyd into the biggest grossing fighter in the sport's history.

                    PBC is a financially successful venture that just got long term deals from 2 TV networks. My guess is Haymon got the money from the profits from his business ventures or the initial investment from Waddell and Reed.

                    Bob is just a cheap prick.

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                    • Scipio2009
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      not at all. U played amateur account again. You made up the amounts Floyd lift on his bets and his returns on his investments with no clue. You dodo believe he isn’t taxed at the higher rate with no clue what his tax write offs are.

                      Most of his big purchases like luxury cars ***elry clothes etc he can’t write off.

                      You also made up foreign tv and gate amounts for Pac Broner greatly inflating them yet make up more numbers to deflate Crawford-Khan foreign tv and gate. See what u are going is called being a hypocrite
                      Luxury items don't mean **** when you're buying retail property for business or buying up hotels and actual real estate or locking up your money in annuities, lol. Follow the hard money assets you fool.

                      https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-broner-produces-6-million-gate-11410-tickets-sold--135791

                      $6m gate on just under 11500 tickets sold.

                      Buys were said to be 400k homes in the US, and we have no idea still what the ITV deal was worth.

                      Crawford-Khan **** the bed on PPV, apparently **** the bed for the live event, and not you want to argue that the foreign money somehow covered the losses? Gtfoh

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