How was haymon able to give manny $20 mil for thurman?

[killakali]

A buyout is can be negotiated. Haymon has negotiated several fighters out of their contract via a buyout. It all comes down to a number both sides agree on

What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.

You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.

Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams.

[Motorcity Cobra]

What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.

You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.

Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams.

It's not what I think. It's what I KNOW!

[Scipio2009]

its not a billion Dollars and a strop club is hardly a great investment plus how many millions has he lost ********?

He’s came back before because he needed money.

I’m not saying he’s broke. Just saying he’s not a billionaire

Floyd sports bets the favorites at basically; this isn't Barkely going $10k a hole in golf or someone blowing their money on blackjack; actual losses, if there are any simply betting favorites, is nowhere near what one would think, tbh.

The side businesses are whatever; I'm making my determination on the thinking that, beyond all the property that Floyd owns, I wouldn't put it past Floyd to have $500m of his liquid assets basically put away in rolling annuities and REITs that earn him 10%+ on his money just because, with the strip club, his gym, his T-shirt/hats company, his promotional company, and his appearance fees supplementing the massive check that he gets as passive income.

His likely closer to being a billionaire than folks want to acknowledge, tbh.

[killakali]

It's not what I think. It's what I KNOW!

U don’t know he’s unhappy. He wouldn’t have resigned when he still had 2 years left on his deal if he was unhappy.

U don’t know Bud or his team. Just cuz he turned down a fight in the UK doesnt mean he’s unhappy or wants to leave.

GRJ continues to turn down fights from Haymon. Doesn’t mean he wants out. That’s just part of business.

[killakali]

Floyd sports bets the favorites at basically; this isn't Barkely going $10k a hole in golf or someone blowing their money on blackjack; actual losses, if there are any simply betting favorites, is nowhere near what one would think, tbh.

The side businesses are whatever; I'm making my determination on the thinking that, beyond all the property that Floyd owns, I wouldn't put it past Floyd to have $500m of his liquid assets basically put away in rolling annuities and REITs that earn him 10%+ on his money just because, with the strip club, his gym, his T-shirt/hats company, his promotional company, and his appearance fees supplementing the massive check that he gets as passive income.

His likely closer to being a billionaire than folks want to acknowledge, tbh.

That whole bottom couple paragraphs is strictly your own speculation with no facts to back it up.

Floyd betting purely “favorites” is laughable too. Clearly u don’t know about sports betting. He bets a lot of football and basketball which have point spreads. He can bet on a favorite and the favorite can win and he still loses because they don’t cover the spread. The house has a built in advantage. Floyd isn’t some professional gambler. He bets high limits that a lot of elite gamblers can’t bet because the casinos won’t take their action. Why do you think they take Floyd’s? Because they make big money off it.

He isn’t betting small amounts like Barkley betting 10k a hole or something. He’s betting 250k-500k a game and sometimes 3 or 4 in a day. His ******** losses are way more than you care to think tbh.

[Scipio2009]

They lost money. U saying they kept the 6 million gate is hilarious. They received a site fee for less than 6 million.

The card cost more than 30mil to put on. You forgot Badou jack and Marcus browne were on the card. Jack made over a million himself.

You forgot about the fighters Haymon flys in. All the tickets he buys that contribute to that 6 million gate, media dinners, lunches etc.

Philippine ppv is funny. What did it bring in 100k? Remember foreign tv isn’t that big. ITV isn’t paying big money for 2 foreigners at 4am in the morning. Neither is japan.

I would bump your expenses to closer to 35mil

Also remember the ppvs were just under 400k so it didn’t hit 30mil in revenue.

Badou Jack is the only undercard fighter to get an alleged million dollars.

Pacquiao's $20m, Broner's $6m, Jack's $1m, maybe another $1m for the rest of the undercard, who knows how much to rent MGM Grand, and another $2m as money fronted to the promoter to put on the show. Pay the promoter $1m and you're still at $31m. Where you're spending the extra $4m is laughable.

ITV has a deal with Haymon's PBC to pick from the entire 40-50 show slate, and it was a good enough deal that Haymon told BoxNation to go **** themselves; call that pennies if you want.

And DAZN is starving for content everywhere, so lol at you thinking they picked up that fight for pennies too.

Laugh at PPV if you want; the supposed national hero of the Philippines was on TV, and if you didn't want to wait on the delayed airings later, the only option was getting the PPV, which fans likely did. No different than Alvarez having his live fights on pay cable before the delayed airings on Televisa.

Once you really start to look at the numbers, all the pieces start to add up to a nice pile of money on the event.

Likely part of why you moved to $35m, lol

[daggum]

Floyd sports bets the favorites at basically; this isn't Barkely going $10k a hole in golf or someone blowing their money on blackjack; actual losses, if there are any simply betting favorites, is nowhere near what one would think, tbh.

The side businesses are whatever; I'm making my determination on the thinking that, beyond all the property that Floyd owns, I wouldn't put it past Floyd to have $500m of his liquid assets basically put away in rolling annuities and REITs that earn him 10%+ on his money just because, with the strip club, his gym, his T-shirt/hats company, his promotional company, and his appearance fees supplementing the massive check that he gets as passive income.

His likely closer to being a billionaire than folks want to acknowledge, tbh.

that dummy trump lost a billion dollars and he had advisers all around him. floyd is on his level intellectually so he can lose a billion too. dont count him out!

[killakali]

Badou Jack is the only undercard fighter to get an alleged million dollars.

Pacquiao's $20m, Broner's $6m, Jack's $1m, maybe another $1m for the rest of the undercard, who knows how much to rent MGM Grand, and another $2m as money fronted to the promoter to put on the show. Pay the promoter $1m and you're still at $31m. Where you're spending the extra $4m is laughable.

ITV has a deal with Haymon's PBC to pick from the entire 40-50 show slate, and it was a good enough deal that Haymon told BoxNation to go **** themselves; call that pennies if you want.

And DAZN is starving for content everywhere, so lol at you thinking they picked up that fight for pennies too.

Laugh at PPV if you want; the supposed national hero of the Philippines was on TV, and if you didn't want to wait on the delayed airings later, the only option was getting the PPV, which fans likely did. No different than Alvarez having his live fights on pay cable before the delayed airings on Televisa.

Once you really start to look at the numbers, all the pieces start to add up to a nice pile of money on the event.

Likely part of why you moved to $35m, lol

i didn’t move it to 35. I said closer to 35. U also just pulled out of your ass they rented the mgm for 2 mil lol. Based on what? They probably received a 2-3 mil site fee and mgm who sets the prices takes the gate as is normal in Vegas.

ITV paid more because of haymon’s British fighters. That was a key component to the deal that just didn’t work out as intended. Degale ended up being shot and retired. Frampton told Haymon to go f**k himself and went to MTK and Top Rank, Selby went to warren and BT and espn , Joe Joyce went to Warren and BT and espn so all Haymon has out of the out of the UK is 2 more fights with eubank.

U also said Pac Broner had 30 mil of revenue which we know is false being the event sold a bit below 400k buys.

[Bob Haymon]

Pacquiao said that he'll fight Crawford for 20 million back in 2016-2017, Bob Arum declined.

I'm not sure what your source is for that but Crawford disagrees with you.

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1053664143935385601

[Scipio2009]

That whole bottom couple paragraphs is strictly your own speculation with no facts to back it up.

Floyd betting purely “favorites” is laughable too. Clearly u don’t know about sports betting. He bets a lot of football and basketball which have point spreads. He can bet on a favorite and the favorite can win and he still loses because they don’t cover the spread. The house has a built in advantage. Floyd isn’t some professional gambler. He bets high limits that a lot of elite gamblers can’t bet because the casinos won’t take their action. Why do you think they take Floyd’s? Because they make big money off it.

He isn’t betting small amounts like Barkley betting 10k a hole or something. He’s betting 250k-500k a game and sometimes 3 or 4 in a day. His ******** losses are way more than you care to think tbh.

If he's betting $250k on the Warriors to win the half, who gives a ****? Floyd has already gone public with one of his annuities basically paying him $1m a month for the rest of his life, and that's just the start. If you've got your money already heading that way, you're bound to keep stashing your money away in similar fashion.

I don't know what Floyd has his money specifically invested, but if he's logically seeing $15-$25m in passive income every year, after basically already buying everything there is to buy, plus the money he's likely getting through appearances and his current businesses, he can basically gamble whatever.

If you've got $20m a year in mailbox money coming to you (it's likely ridiculously more than that), what would we even be talking about?