How was haymon able to give manny $20 mil for thurman?

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  • killakali
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    #71
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    If he's betting $250k on the Warriors to win the half, who gives a ****? Floyd has already gone public with one of his annuities basically paying him $1m a month for the rest of his life, and that's just the start. If you've got your money already heading that way, you're bound to keep stashing your money away in similar fashion.

    I don't know what Floyd has his money specifically invested, but if he's logically seeing $15-$25m in passive income every year, after basically already buying everything there is to buy, plus the money he's likely getting through appearances and his current businesses, he can basically gamble whatever.

    If you've got $20m a year in mailbox money coming to you (it's likely ridiculously more than that), what would we even be talking about?
    you are completely clueless with ********. If it was that easy easy everyone would do it. You are starting to come off as ignorant.

    You can bet the warriors -11 in the first half and they score 10 more than their opponent and you lose your bet. You really have no knowledge on what you are talking about.

    He can have an annuity paying 1 million a Month and 39.6% goes to Uncle Sam. If you spend more than you make your net worth goes down not up.

    You just made made up 15-20 mil a year in passive income.

    You also don’t take into account how much he loves yearly on his promotional company that doesn’t make money. Especially with so many off tv shows.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #72
      Originally posted by killakali
      you are completely clueless with ********. If it was that easy easy everyone would do it. You are starting to come off as ignorant.

      You can bet the warriors -11 in the first half and they score 10 more than their opponent and you lose your bet. You really have no knowledge on what you are talking about.

      He can have an annuity paying 1 million a Month and 39.6% goes to Uncle Sam. If you spend more than you make your net worth goes down not up.

      You just made made up 15-20 mil a year in passive income.

      You also don’t take into account how much he loves yearly on his promotional company that doesn’t make money. Especially with so many off tv shows.
      Except it's not 39.6%, lol.

      Beyond that, all I'll say is look at the slips that Floyd has bet, winners or losers. All you'll see is bet $100 to win $50, bet $100 to win $100, and other wagers.

      Props get mixed in (a bet against the spread is a prop), but why act as if those are Floyd's main bets, lol? Whatever.

      Mayweather Promotions runs shows out of Sam's Town Las Vegas, from what would seem to be a venue deal, for basically all of their off-TV cards, plus getting work as a promoter under the PBC umbrella and with ShoBox; how much money the promotional company is or isn't making is for them to know, but to assume that Floyd is losing his ass on his promotional company is laughable.

      Floyd earned, from the Alvarez fight on, over $800m fighting. And that's with having all that property and at least $150m in cash before fighting Canelo. Taxes, Haymon's fee, camp expenses, etc, Floyd likely walked away with $500m+, on top of everything else he had before fighting Alvarez.

      I have no idea what Floyd was advised to put his money away in, but basic investing tells you that if you put what Floyd possibly earned away in basically a risk-free asset like a 10Y, you earn 2.5% per year, on top of still getting the investment back; imagine the earnings on basic vanilla stuff like the SPY (historical avg year over year of 8% on the money).

      You're completely clueless about money.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #73
        Pay grades

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        • DaBeastO
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          #74
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          A buyout is can be negotiated. Haymon has negotiated several fighters out of their contract via a buyout. It all comes down to a number both sides agree on
          why would arum or crawford who's making good money want to leave? IF crawford was unhappy with arum he wouldn't have recently signed that new deal with top rank.

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            #75
            Originally posted by spenz
            If Manny miraculously wins against Thurman, Arum might call him back for the fear of Spence getting to Manny first and collecting that belt, but Manny being a little bit sly might up his price to a minimum of 40 million to fight Crawford. Arum indeed might be scratching his balls this time around.

            Everything that's happening now is part of Al Haymon's grand plan. Spence vs Porter / Thurman vs Pacquiao will end up with Errol Spence collecting 3 belts and then we go to war on the other side with that leverage and ask for a minimum of 75/25 against Crawford. This is why Arum is in a hurry to make the fight now because he had foresaw that moment.
            ... yes............................

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            • DaBeastO
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              #76
              Originally posted by killakali
              What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.

              You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.

              Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams.
              lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.

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                #77
                Originally posted by killakali
                What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.

                You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.

                Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams.
                Originally posted by DaBeastO
                lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.
                Really don't get some of these guys, like you pointed out if Crawford isn't happy he wouldn't have re-signed a new deal. And its part and parcel of the fight game to ask to be push a bit more in promotional stables.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by DaBeastO
                  why would arum or crawford who's making good money want to leave? IF crawford was unhappy with arum he wouldn't have recently signed that new deal with top rank.
                  1. Arum is losing money on Crawford

                  2. Crawford could make more money

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                  • killakali
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DaBeastO
                    lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.
                    not surprising is it

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                    • killakali
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Except it's not 39.6%, lol.

                      Beyond that, all I'll say is look at the slips that Floyd has bet, winners or losers. All you'll see is bet $100 to win $50, bet $100 to win $100, and other wagers.

                      Props get mixed in (a bet against the spread is a prop), but why act as if those are Floyd's main bets, lol? Whatever.

                      Mayweather Promotions runs shows out of Sam's Town Las Vegas, from what would seem to be a venue deal, for basically all of their off-TV cards, plus getting work as a promoter under the PBC umbrella and with ShoBox; how much money the promotional company is or isn't making is for them to know, but to assume that Floyd is losing his ass on his promotional company is laughable.

                      Floyd earned, from the Alvarez fight on, over $800m fighting. And that's with having all that property and at least $150m in cash before fighting Canelo. Taxes, Haymon's fee, camp expenses, etc, Floyd likely walked away with $500m+, on top of everything else he had before fighting Alvarez.

                      I have no idea what Floyd was advised to put his money away in, but basic investing tells you that if you put what Floyd possibly earned away in basically a risk-free asset like a 10Y, you earn 2.5% per year, on top of still getting the investment back; imagine the earnings on basic vanilla stuff like the SPY (historical avg year over year of 8% on the money).

                      You're completely clueless about money.
                      baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.

                      Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?

                      Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
                      They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.

                      Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.

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