Comments Thread For: Joshua: Ortiz Turning Down Fight Goes Against What I Stand For

[The Big Dunn]

Ortiz should have taken the $7 million. That was a good offer and a chance to be heavyweight champion.

He or more likely his promoters droppedthe ball on that one.

Homie I think Haymon just told him no. No way Ortiz doesn't take the fight and Ruiz does when Haymon employs both of them.

[DaNeutral.]

So I see some wilder fans in here still calling it a lowball. Even ortiz and his team are not calling it a lowball. They will forever refuse to accept reality and forever blame it on Joshua and hearn.

[ShoulderRoll]

I can see Ortiz turning the fight down to want a full training camp to give himself the best chance to win. That doesn't seem to be the real reason why he turned it down. Haymon didn't give the fight the ok.

When are the Brits on this board going to get it; Haymon is not helping DAZN sell subscriptions which could eventually lead to Haymon being out of business and more than Hearn is going to help Haymon keep the PPV model in business which affects sales of DAZN.

It would have been a great fight for the fans. And it would have meant financial security for life for Ortiz and his family.

Any boxing model that causes fighters to turn down opportunities like that is wrong and broken.

[ThatDude44]

Im surprised Ortiz didn't take this fight plus considering his age it'd a fine time as any to get a nice big purse. He doesnt have many years left.

[DougalDylan]

Ortiz was offered 0.5 million more than Miller. Some reports had Miller missing out more but that involved Miller fighting two additional fights that was not in the Louis offer though Hearn did include that in an alternative offer, the issue being Louis being PBC and might not be able to accept the additional fights.

[The Big Dunn]

It would have been a great fight for the fans. And it would have meant financial security for life for Ortiz and his family.

Any boxing model that causes fighters to turn down opportunities like that is wrong and broken.

I agree with you. Just a short time ago the HWT division was so hot. Now we have 3 fights that no one gives a crap about and doesn't look like we will get any truly meaningful HWT fight for another year.

Promoters and networks are essentially paying guys not to fight each other.

[James Hunt]

I can see Ortiz turning the fight down to want a full training camp to give himself the best chance to win. That doesn't seem to be the real reason why he turned it down. Haymon didn't give the fight the ok.

When are the Brits on this board going to get it; Haymon is not helping DAZN sell subscriptions which could eventually lead to Haymon being out of business and more than Hearn is going to help Haymon keep the PPV model in business which affects sales of DAZN.

Exactly! All these rejected offers (Wilder, Ortiz, Kownacki), strange WBC decisions, etc. are just the result of US boxing currently being in power struggle.
It's a pity cuz it goes mainly against the interests of the fighters. I'm just surprised that all these fighters don't stand their ground when their interests collide with advisors' interests.

[ShoulderRoll]

I agree with you. Just a short time ago the HWT division was so hot. Now we have 3 fights that no one gives a crap about and doesn't look like we will get any truly meaningful HWT fight for another year.

Promoters and networks are essentially paying guys not to fight each other.

It's ridiculous.

That's why boxing sucks right now.

[Ray*]

It would have been a great fight for the fans. And it would have meant financial security for life for Ortiz and his family.

Any boxing model that causes fighters to turn down opportunities like that is wrong and broken.

Wow, am actually shocked that you called it like it is here. Whether its Arum, Hearn, Haymon or oscar or whoever. This applies to them all. So kudos for putting this out there...Green K.

[AdonisCreed]

It's amazing how much talk there is about Ortiz? If he was so special, and you wanted to fight him, why didn't he get the offer instead of Miller in the first place? We're talking about a guy turning down (really Jimenez f'ing up) a chance to be a late replacement! If you want to fight the man, offer him a fight just like you offered Whyte the fight, or Miller the fight! Please keep in mind, Dillian Whyte has the same "smart" people around him as Joshua! Why didn't he accept the offer? What are those people telling him?

I didn't look at it that way. I see your point, so basically you're saying Ortiz should have been offered the fight under normal circumstances rather than it being on short notice without having a full camp to prepare. I get it.